Imagine waking up to news that your daughter is dead. Toni Ingram received this news almost a decade ago when she discovered her daughter lifeless in their Carbondale, Colorado home. And although the case is closed, with so many questions left unanswered and a plethora of speculation—what happened to her?
Join Even Salt Looks Like Sugar as your host Billy Housh speaks personally with Toni Ingram in an exclusive interview about Morgan, the events that lead up to her death, and what she believes happened. I also share some insight regarding this case. As many of you are already aware, this case is near and dear to my heart as I truly believe Morgan Ingram was a victim of foul play and deserves justice. I don't believe she took her own life. With the high levels of Amitriptyline in Morgan's blood stream, there is no doubt this was anything, but accidental. She was stalked and she was ignored my the authorities who promised to protect her. It was truly an honor to co-produce this episode, as well as, the episodes before this one and the episodes yet to come.
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Sarah I love you and I love your blog. I know you mean well but as much as I want to feel bad (and I do) for Toni Ingram she needs to do more if she wants justice because based on what she’s sharing there is still more she needs to do. Hiring an attorney is important and if she doesn’t have money to do so (which I suspect) she needs to raise the money on a livestream for the morgansstalking facebook. With an attorney she can get a writ and warrant. I really want her to get justice but the more she puts it off I am worried about the future of justice for Morgan. It’s 2020. Morgan has been dead since 2011. Almost 10 years. There shouldn’t be anymore excuses. Toni and Steve need to get an attorney and go after Keenan Vanginkel.
I definitely do not believe Websleuths Wack Job Tricia. I saw her walk into Crimecon in 2018 wearing dirty clothes and carrying a trash bag into a 5-star resort. I said hi to her and she completely ignored me. She has a track record of creating problems online and was recently exposed for impersonating a former attorney who is now deceased.
I definitely do not believe Michael Odegard. Comes across as a very obvious paranoid schizophrenic who is angry at the world. Blames innocent people for his failures and because he’s a homeless bum with analysis paralysis.
I definitely do not believe terror Terry Stipp or Terry Cavitalo. I think one quick search will tell you why.
I definitely do not believe Mike “Misogynistic” Boudet. A grifter with an overproduced podcast who blames others for stuff he does. The international woman’s day meme was disgusting. His Adrian Jones episode is completely plagiarized word for word.
I definitely do not believe Keenan “Killer” Vanginkel or anyone who supports him including Jenn Johnson and Heather Brown. His “in my opinion, I didn’t do anything.” During the interrogation video was what truly nailed the coffin shut.
Yep.
Morgan Ingram identified the man stalking her as Keenan James Vanginkel.
Keenan James Vanginkel has a history of drug abuse, mental illness, and has a large criminal history.
Keenan James Vanginkel denied ever being at the Ingram’s house or in their driveway, when it’s clear it is him on the camera.
Keenan James Vanginkel said when interrogated by police and I quote “In my opinion, I didn’t do anything.” An innocent person doesn’t say this.
P.S. Morgan committed suicide. Toni Ingram is crazy. Sarah Afshar is crazy. Keenan Vanginkel is innocent. Ted Bundy is normal.
-Morgan identified the man stalking her. Even documented the details. She even told other people.
-What happened to Morgan Ingram’s pajama pants?
-What happened to the red panic button?
-Why was foundation and pipes cracked?
-Why did Morgan use a “K” and a “N” (Keenan?) when doing sign language?
-Why was the equine Amitriptyline and ketamine discovered missing at the ranch nearby? The owner reported it stolen like a week before Morgan was found dead.
-Why were a few pills missing from an expired prescription for Amitriptyline? Yet the amount in Morgan’s system exceeds the amount she consumed?
-Why was Morgan’s phone found on the bathroom floor?
-Why did the pathologist Kurtzman change the cause and manner of death so many times?
-Why the stalker deny being near the Ingram’s house but it was clearly him in the footage published online?
-Why were parts of the Ingram house cracked?
-What shoes did the footprints belong to? The photos were posted online. Did they ever check?
-Why didn’t the stalker or suspected stalker take a polygraph test?
Other questions:
-The sheriff in that town and the one working on this case was recused for unethical behavior. Why wasn’t the CBI able to investigate?
-Why did the sheriff lie and saying a stalking never happened when there is proof Morgan identified him? Her signature was also signed and dated after the reports. Some of the reports give details.
-Why did the DA tell Toni before she was DA she believed her but once she was DA and her office was next to the sheriff’s sue had a change of opinion?
-Why does Morgan’s stalker or the suspected stalker have several criminal trespassing offenses on his record? What are they for and why does no one care?
-Why wasn’t the hat and flannel ever tested for DNA? If it were, would the suspected stalker ever give his up to prove those items didn’t belong to him?
-Morgan said she received a message, a text from 970-319-5562 saying something about how she looked in the morning. Morgan didn’t know the number. Who does it belong to? Did they ever find out?
-Why was the suspected stalker seen walking out of the store while on the clock?
-Why is the detective that was on this case now a coroner?
-Other than the suspect’s mother, why is it the same armchair investigators defending him? I don’t see too many people saying he’s innocent. Only a few and it’s the same few women. The one with the tattoos and that crime admin woman.
-Why did the pathologist on Morgan’s case move to Montana and why is he no longer able to work in Colorado?
-Why is the suspect trying to blame Brooke Harris and some guy named Wiley for Morgan’s death?
I’m happy you and Toni never went on his show. The disgruntled armchair sleuths Tricia and Mayra were horrible. The scorned internet stalker Michael Odegard was by far the worst. He was evidentially lying about you and using the platform for his 15-minute of fame. I noticed someone here mentioned social service abuse. Speaking of which, I followed his (Odegard’s) blog after the podcast and I saw him brag about getting thousands of dollars of free money from the government. This made me laugh and realize those episodes were scams. After listening to the podcast he did with Mike Boudet and it’s clear he has a thing for little kids. I tried listening to the Websleuths podcast and it was terrible. I don’t like Tricia’s voice, as she sounds washed up and old or how she delivers stories. She acts like an expert when she’s merely an armchair investigator with a true crime forum. I also notice her grifting and peddling when I decided to join her forum. Her constant begging for money made me unjoin shortly after. These people are garbage and it’s sad they stoop this low.
Honestly, I love this podcast, Even Salt Looks Like Sugar and this episode about Morgan because it’s filled with so many details and you don’t have to spend money to listen to it. I don’t like ads but when one is expected to pay to hear a majority of it, that’s when I personally draw the line. I love the fact you are a republican and Billy is more of a natural liberal and you both leave politics out of your podcast. I can’t wait to hear more. I wish you would put out more episodes. This is my favorite episode and I’m very happy Mrs. Ingram had the opportunity to share her side of the story.
Everything Tricia Griffith of Websleuths said, everything Mayra Martinez (MayraMM) said, everything Terry Cavitalo (Windchime), everything Michael Odegard (Mode), everything Priest (Tina and David Adler), and everything Mike Boudet of Sword and Scale are complete lies and fabrication. The administrator of Websleuths, Tricia has a history of deception, including lies and abuse. One quick look into her, I found myself reading that she was sued in 2013-2014 for taking a lot of money from an individual named Susan Pruitt. She plead the 5th. The case has been documented online and you can read details on various law-related websites.
Sarah has never been a web cam model. She is not a scammer. She’s never asked me for money in the years I’ve known her. She was never ‘pimped’ out or trafficked by her mother. She’s not getting paid by Toni Ingram. I’ve known Sarah for over half of my life. She’s only had very few boyfriends in her life and has a small circle, group of close friends. I can’t believe the lengths these people go.
Most of these are lies created by Michael Odegard, an internet stalker and psychopathic peddler from Portland, Oregon. I don’t want to diagnose someone via internet but it’s clear Michael Odegard is schizophrenic, as most with this type of illness like to spread perversion to get people to believe their fake stories. Most people with such psychological issues will perpetuate scams that they are victims and paraphrase the context to make it believable to those vulnerable people who easily pity them. It’s clear he is scorned, angry, and strongly in denial about his issues. It’s also clear he created this charade for compensation purposes. Possibly entertainment purposes, as I can’t be the only one thinking he was looking for his 15 minutes of fame. This Odegard spoke to Sarah’s mother in the MSN movie chat, never to Sarah at all and they talked about movies.
Based on reading this internet stalker’s series of blogs including that awful ‘Sarah Afshar Bimbo’ blog, I believe these armchair investigators (primarily Tricia and Mayra) promised him compensation for appearing on the Sword and Scale podcast. Mayra Martinez (MayraMM) is also quite unhinged but does a much better job hiding it than Odegard. I believe Mayra, Tricia, and Terry are the type to impersonate Sarah to make contact with both Mike Boudet and Michael Odegard. I remember when they also harassed Joseph Valo. I’ve met Joe about 8-9 years ago and he’s a great guy. I think the major motive for lying about Sarah is because she interviewed Morgan Ingram’s mother, Toni Ingram and has been an adamant and vocal supporter of Mrs. Ingram and this cause. I believe Mayra harassed Sarah online because in the beginning she was paranoid and thought Sarah was actually Toni. I think she started to become obsessed with Sarah because of Sarah’s stance on this case and the fact she’s never encountered someone as intellectually gifted. I suspect she discovered Michael Odegard’s hate blogs by voluntarily searching them and befriended him based on their shared obsession with Sarah.
He is undisputedly irrelevant to the Morgan Ingram case. I’m 100% most people agree with me here. Whether normal or crazy, most people would agree with me. His lies are nothing more than rants of a scorned stalker. Not relevant. I don’t like belittling people but this individual has no right to lie about innocent people. If you have an axe to grind with someone, you shouldn’t be on the internet.
I enjoyed this episode because it was nice to hear Toni Ingram speak out and raise questions regarding her daughter Morgan Ingram’s death. I’m glad she was able to share important discrepancies regarding her case. I believe this investigation was botched. It probably started with laziness and then money after. If I’m being honest, I think the sheriff involved and the forensic pathologist are at fault. Almost as much as the suspect himself. Hopefully the case will be looked at but it would depend on the people/parties involved and physical evidence connecting the stalker to the crime. Hopefully a resolve will happen and those unanswered questions are finally answered.
By the way Sarah, I’m so sorry to hear about your mother. I’m always here if you want to talk.
Morgan Ingram had 7,909 ng of Amitriptyline in her blood stream. 900-1,000 ng of Amitriptyline in the blood is death.
Morgan Ingram’s level is the highest reported. Her Amitriptyline to Noratriptyline levels are close in ratio which means she was injected with the drug after the amount found in her gastric. Those levels are not as close in ratio of Amitriptyline to Noratriptyline.
This is a homicide.