Showing posts with label Crime Talk. Show all posts
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Tuesday, January 23, 2018

Larry Nassar is a monster

I first heard about Larry Nassar when one of his victim's contacted me directly several years ago. She explained to me what he did to her when she was a child. She also shared with me that she admired my strength, as she loved the fact I was defending Morgan Ingram, a woman who was stalked and murdered in late 2011. Over the last three years she and I talked via email as well as, over the phone. I informed her that she wasn't alone, as I am also a victim of abuse. I tried to convince her to make her story public regarding Nassar, but like most victims of abuse she was reluctant. Why was she was reluctant? She was simply scared. Scared of not being believed, of feeling alone and simply scared of being blamed. She told only her mother, father, sister, and a few friends including me.

I tried to inform several parties about this abuse directly using the power of the pen and my own natural right and freedom as an American citizen. And like every other sane individual who tried to defend his victims, we all received the same, banal response that implied his innocence. I also had several friends contact MSU and they received the same response. I knew he was a liar, but for some weird reason people were defending him there. I also knew there were other women, other victims who felt the same way as my friend did and were too scared to come forward. My only regret was not pushing harder; however, as this all evolves and the facts are brought to light, I am so very thankful the truth has been exposed about him and justice is coming. Tomorrow will be the day it arrives.

Larry Nassar is one of the worst monsters because Mr. Nassar used his credentials and his cunning yet crafty and calculated character to lure little girls into thinking the abuse was inherent, accepted and no acts were committed. Using bribery tactics, this disgusting low life also gave these girls gifts as a "thank you" for letting him touch them and molest them as a form of astute abuse so they would keep quiet. He is one of the worst kind of abusers and the sad thing is, there are others like him. His case is glorified because he ruined over a hundred lives. And the sad part about this all is, I honestly believe more women exist, but are too scared to come forward.

And shame on attorney Shannon Smith for her antics, especially the passively aggressive yet petty remarks she makes. In May of last year, the desperate prosecutor made a comment "I feel like we should say cheese." She's almost as bad as Hillary Clinton. She should have stuck with divorce as her forte and left the high-profile sex crimes alone. And as for being "very honest" the moment she defended this man is the moment her "honesty" became extinct. I will refrain from belittling her anymore, as she's irrelevant and most of the world already is. I can complain about her defending him, but I think if he would have taken this case on pro en se, he would have received the insanity plea and get a lower sentencing. So, it is good she defended him as his victims will not only receive justice tomorrow, but the last laugh.

Anyways, tomorrow is the sentencing. I received numerous messages from you, my readers, asking what I would do if I were the judge. I watched the videos, the testimony and read about this case. Wiping away the tears was impossible as the projection of empathy exuded relentlessly. If I were judge Rosemarie Aquilina, I would give Larry Nassar the maximum sentence in prison. He already received 60 years in December, I do believe for child pornography. So, I think he needs to do the maximum amount of time for all of the distress and anguish he put these innocent women through. 125-175 years. I would give him the maximum and I would make sure there was absolutely no possibility for parole. As much as I don't like to undermine the natural right of a human, I truly believe this kind of individual should not be allowed to practice medicine let alone have the opportunity to live life like a human. He is the type that needs to be confined to an area like a prison, where he can stop abusing children. In this case, little girls and live the rest of his life knowing what he has done because the death penalty would be an easy way out for this monster. And I must ask, why test on animals when you have people like Larry Nassar in prison? Only someone with a selfish agenda, mean streak and unhinged psyche would see this man as innocent and think he deserves nothing for what he did.

Unfortunately, these beautiful women (all 140, excluding others who haven't come forward due to fear) will be affected for life. They are the real victims and the only ones who deserve to be heard. The abuse they endured will leave permanent scars, especially mentally, socially, emotionally and spiritually. There is no price on a life, but every life holds value. The justice; however, will allow these women to start their path on the road to healing and that is a beautiful thing.

Monday, May 2, 2016

10 reasons why I believe Morgan Ingram was murdered

As many of you are already aware, I have had the opportunity to interview Toni Ingram, the mother of Morgan Ingram, a beautiful and bright young woman from Carbondale, Colorado who was stalked and murdered in early December of 2011. When I was with Yahoo! Voices, I published the first interview in late November of 2012. In July of 2014, Yahoo! got rid of the Voices platform. As a result, all exclusive rights to the content I produced were reverted back to me, so I took it upon myself to publish it on this  blog. You can read the original interview here.

In April of 2014, a few months prior to the closing of Yahoo! Voices, I had the opportunity to speak with Toni again. I had a lot of questions, as does anyone who has garnered an interest in this particular case. A lot of things happened in that particular time frame and there was a gap between 2012 to 2014. You can read the second interview here. Then, in August I interviewed Morgan's brother Ryan who also shared some very interesting details with me. You can read that interview here.

1. Drug Levels - When looking at the toxicology reports, I noticed quite a few things that didn't make sense to me and one of them includes the amount of drug in her blood. Morgan Ingram had 7,909 ng of Amitriptyline in her blood stream. With 900-1,000 ng being considered "lethal" how can one explain the remaining 6,909-7,009 amount in Morgan's blood? You can listen to my podcast about this here.

2. Gastric Fluids - Morgan Ingram had an old prescription of Amitriptyline that expired over 2 years prior to her murder. When the bottle was found, only a few pills were missing from this particular prescription. Why is that? With 2,287,440 ng in Morgan's gastric fluids, it is impossible that the drug was from that particular bottle. Even if Morgan would have taken the entire bottle, it would not reach such a high amount. This is also explained in my part 1 podcast, which you can listen to here.

3. Date Rape Cocktail - The toxicology reports tell a story. A very tragic yet sad story of a woman who was murdered. When looking at them, I could not help but notice very small amounts of drugs. Upon research, I discovered that they are used frequently in a date rape cocktail. Why would Morgan Ingram have Cyclobenzaprine in her system? I also discussed this particular association in the podcast too.

4. Police Reports - When I first read the police reports, I noticed quite a few discrepancies. One of the major issues, problems per se that I had with the reports was only a few sentences for a month's work. At first, I assumed the detective on the case was lazy, but then I noticed that some of the paragraphs looked edited and changed. I also noticed that some of the sentences were unfinished and looked as if content was removed swiftly without checking for any errors.

5. Rape Kit - Saying "no sign of sexual trauma" does not mean rape kit nor does it mean a rape kit was ever done. For a young woman who was a victim of stalking, why was no rape kit administered? Was Morgan Ingram ignored by law enforcement? An unidentified mark was picked up by a blue light on Morgan's chest. Why was this ignored?

6. Autopsy Photos - The autopsy photos show strangle marks as well as, a swollen and bloody lip. The photos also show other unidentified marks on Morgan's face and body. Not only do the autopsy photos reveal signs of a struggle, they also prove that Morgan Ingram did not take her own life.

7. Street Clothes - When Morgan Ingram was originally found dead, she was discovered wearing street clothes. A light colored shirt with a black bra. She also wore jeans that she didn't wear often and they were unbuttoned too. What was the killer's intention exactly? The man who took Morgan's life obviously didn't want to go purchase a tarp late at night into early morning.

8. Refusal of Dr. Dobersen's opinion - The pathologist on this case changed the cause and manner several times before attempting to come to the hypothetical opinion that Morgan Ingram committed suicide and died of Porphyria. This, of course is so false. When Dr. Dobersen attempted to intervene and give is opinion of why he believes this is a homicide, the pathologist on this case refused and attempted to belittle Dobersen in the process. Why would he do that? Considering Dobersen's credentials outweigh his and he has more experience with these types of crimes too.

9. Rainer Jundt - Why did the detective and sheriff only interview a few people who knew Morgan Ingram? Why did they not speak with Rainer Jundt who knew her more than anyone other than Toni and Steve? Rainer had a lot to tell my boyfriend Joe in this exclusive interview.

10. Suicide Note - Morgan Ingram heavily embraced the arts. She loved singing, playing piano, painting, dancing and writing. If she intended to take her own life, don't you think you think she would have left a suicide note? She didn't leave a suicide note because she did not take her own life. She was not a suicidal person. Even her friends can vouch for that. You can read my interview with them here.

Note - If Morgan were to take any pills, don't you think she would have went for medication stronger than Amitriptyline? There are many things she could have taken. Think about it.

I have always had an interest in true crime. When I was a little girl, I would love to watch Unsolved Mysteries. The one with Robert Stack (RIP). Everything from the stories to Stack's haunting voice, the show was one of the greatest ever on television. And although my experience with this particular genre is quite new, I have still managed to research and discover that not everything is what it seems and that evil is very much alive and well in the world right now. You may disagree with what I have to say, as some of you may not be able to handle these facts and attempt to discredit me by spreading lies about me, but guess what? I don't care (if you do, you can read here). Why? Because these are my reasons for believing that Morgan Ingram was murdered.

For more information about the stalking and murder of Morgan Ingram, please visit the official website today. Just click here.

Wednesday, August 13, 2014

Morgan Ingram: Exclusive Interview with Ryan Ingram

Morgan and Ryan.
Morgan Ingram was found dead on December 2, 2011. As her death remains a mystery, one thing is certain, she was murdered. Recently, I had the chance to speak with her older brother Ryan Ingram about his sister's life and her death. Here is what he had to tell me...


(Q) Hello Ryan. How are you?


Hello Sarah. I am doing ok.


(Q) I wanted to ask you some questions today. Can you tell me a little more about Morgan and the type of person she was?


Well, I can talk on for days about Morgan. She was a beautiful soul. She was very brilliant in many ways. She loved life. She was the best sister anyone could ask for. Morgan was very loving and caring. She was very articulate and intelligent. The list goes on.


(Q) That is so amazing. I think Morgan was such a beautiful soul. Everything about her was so amazing. Plus, she was raised by your mother who is another beautiful soul. I truly believe everyone in your family is so kind and compassionate.


Thank you.


(Q) I wanted to ask you Ryan, did Morgan ever tell you about the stalking? Did she seem distant when you talked to her? Can you tell me a little more?


We talked. Yes, she did tell me about the stalking. I was very angry about it when she told me. I wanted to help my sister, I wanted to protect my sister. She was very classy in a sense where she didn't want me to worry, when I said that I wanted to put an end to it. She was the type of young woman who did not like drama or confrontation. "No Ryan, no Ryan..." she said to me when I offered to handle it. I know my mom and dad were going to the sheriffs and filing reports about it. They were taking proper measures to catch the guy and make him stop, but I was still worried.

Morgan's request was "I love you Ryan and I will call you if I need you" and I respected her wishes like I always did. She did tell me about the stalking and I chose to go along with her feelings on the matter at that time. Knowing what I know now, I should have went against her wishes. I could kick myself now because now my sister is dead.
Morgan Ingram enjoying dinner with family
and loved ones, including Ryan Ingram.



(Q) Wow, she actually told you about stalker?


Yes, she talked to me about the stalker and so did my parents. My life did not just change after the loss of Morgan. It changed months before due to the stalking. It changed by worrying about her and my parents. The months leading up to her death were not good ones for our family. The stalker was all we thought about, and all we talked about. How do we keep her safe? What kind of person was this, what does he want, how do we catch him?

Before her stalking started in August of 2011 we talked about how much fun Morgan was having flying to Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Hawaii. We all celebrated her wrapping up her first two years of college and earning her AA degree, we talked about how wonderful the pictures were that she took of everyone in the family - we asked her to do a family portrait up on the mountain. We were a family that loved to do things together, spend time together and make wonderful memories, but the stalker took that all away from us.


(Q) Did she describe the stalker?


Yes, but referred to him as a neighbor’s boyfriend. When I did my research, I found out exactly who he was.


(Q) When is the last time you spoke with your sister? Tell me about the last time you saw Morgan...


I saw her the day before she died. She came by the shop with her friend at the time to help my dad pack up some stuff. She looked really pale. I was concerned so, me being the big brother, I asked her a bunch of questions. She was very open. She was very positive. She was in good spirits. We had a good talk. She was loving life, and having fun, just really tired. She wasn't going to let her stalker ruin her life. We said I love you and we hugged, just like we always did, like any other day, and she left. At that time I didn’t know it would be the very last time I would ever see my youngest sister alive.


(Q) Taking you back to that sad day, the day of December 2nd 2011. I know this is so hard. When you heard the news that your sister was dead, what went through your mind?


I went and destroyed my closet - I literally tore it apart. It was sometime after 6:00 am in the morning here. When I got the call, I knew it was an emergency. My mom doesn't usually call me that early in the morning, so I knew something was wrong. After I ripped apart my closet, that is when everything kind of set in. My girlfriend approached me and asked "Ryan, what is going on?" I told her that I had to go. I decided to head to their house.

When I got to the house, it was pretty much a crime scene. There was crime scene tape all around and I just went through it. I looked at the sheriffs, who looked at me shocked because I had just barged in. I remember having a little confrontational moment with them. I remember telling them "you didn't do your f^#%*@^ job!" and proceeded "And this is what the $%^& happened?!"

Morgan was laying on the ground with a towel over face. She was laying there in a frozen position. At this point, I was escorted out of the house. After that morning, I noticed that one of the cops parked his car outside of my house for a few days. I found that odd that he was more worried about me than going after the man responsible for my sister's death, even more worried about me than they ever were about protecting her how does that seem right?


(Q) I want to ask, do you believe that your sister was murdered? What are your reasons for believing she was murdered?


I never sat down and came to the conclusion as to any details about what happened, but yes, I do believe my sister was murdered.


(Q) I definitely believe she was murdered, as well. I don't believe suicide was ever the case. For someone who embraces the arts and loves writing, I find Morgan to be the type to leave a note. The drug levels are only the beginning.


Most definitely, she was not suicidal, she had a stalker, I have seen and heard the evidence, and for people to even mention suicide is not only ridiculous at this point, but an impossible conclusion given the evidence. So yes, that is exactly how I feel.

(Q) Do you think this woman, along with the alleged stalker/suspect are angry because your parents have exposed the truth and are not backing down? Do you believe their harassment is based on fear more so than anything else?

Absolutely. Everytime my parents expose something, these people come lashing back with the same exact thing every single time. "Everyone's crazy!"

(Q) Tell me a little more about the phone calls you received from the suspect's family and friends...What did they say to your girlfriend, as well as, yourself?


They approached my girlfriend and offered her incentives to give them any information, any "dirt" on me or my mom or anyone defending my parents. They offered money, as well. They basically approached a weak person and tried to manipulate that person into doing something to discredit my mom, my dad, and everyone supporting them.

The woman behind a lot of this talks a lot of trash online, but also embellishes and exaggerates her claims to fit her story. She never knew Morgan, doesn’t know our family, doesn’t even live in the same state. She was calling multiple times and not leaving any messages, so that is when I took it upon myself to call her back.

(Q) Wow...


At this point, I was so irritated because I couldn't have a conversation with anyone, she would just call and say nothing. She wasn't trying to be civil, so I just called this person and left them a message to let them know that it wasn't ok to do what they were doing. I wanted this person to stop harassing my parents and the mother of my children, as well as, anyone who supports them. I guess that gave her ammo to spread lies online and make herself look like a victim and me the bad guy for defending what is right. I didn't say anything threatening. I was just very clear when I asked her to leave my family alone.


(Q) Now I have a question, as you are aware - some people try to say that your parents, Toni and Steve are overbearing parents who cannot accept that your sister took her own life. What do you want these people to know?

My parents have always been truthful and honest. If overbearing means telling the truth and separating fact from fiction, then I guess you could say they are. Anyone who says this about my parents does not know them. They are hardworking people who knew their daughter, my sister. You will notice that as more evidence surfaces, those people connected to the stalker will try anything they can to discredit them and those that don't know much will learn more about what went wrong. There is so much evidence, there is so much proof that my sister was murdered and my parents will continue to keep going until the truth about what really happened to my sister comes out.


(Q) I have to ask, on December 2nd when you went to the house and you made your way in and so forth, did you notice anything really strange? Anything that was awkward? Anything that was odd that stood out?


Morgan was a little snuggle bug. She wore PJs to bed. Although I wasn't in the house for long, I found it very odd that she was wearing clothes she would go out in. She was in street clothes. That just wasn't my sister, that just wasn't Morgan. She was in a strange position lying on the floor and none of what I was seeing was making any sense to me.


(Q) That is just so sad. I have tears in my eyes just thinking about that day. I just want to know Ryan, I know you have a lot to say so I want you to say everything you would like to say.


I do have a lot to say. My sister's death has changed my life. After she died, I had a hard time dealing with her death. At the time, I had a great job and I was very successful. I couldn't work because of her death. It was very stressful. I could not stop thinking about Morgan. I also could not stop thinking about Morgan's stalker. I ended up moving away to try and get a fresh new start. The day Morgan was murdered everything changed for everyone in our family for the rest of our lives. Colorado was my home for many years, and I don't think I'll ever be able to live there, and do not even feel comfortable visiting.
Ryan Ingram's tattoo.


My youngest son was too young when Morgan died and will never remember his aunt. My daughter, who is nearly 6 and knew Morgan well will forever miss her aunt, she will never have cousins, and she will never know the happy go lucky grandparents that my parents used to be. As much as we have tried not to talk around her, it is impossible. She has nightmares and is scared of the dark, and to asleep alone. She asks about Morgan’s murder almost every day, and every day she wants to know if they caught that guy yet? The loss of Morgan and the manner of her death, has changed all of us, forever… I don't think any of us will ever be who we were before her death.

My mother was very passionate about everything and she knew what happened to my sister, as we all did. Everyone would talk about it and every time I kept thinking about Morgan's stalker. I miss my sister and I love my sister. I support my parents 100%. Morgan told me about him and I respected her wishes not to do what I thought I should do at the time. The reality is, my sister was murdered and justice has not been served. If I could turn back time, I would do things a lot differently.

For more information, please visit www.morgansstalking.com today.


Morgan wrote this to her brother Ryan:


January 06, 2009


To the best brother a girl could ask for, when people tell me that the world is a cruel and horrible place all I can do is smile. I smile because I know them to be wrong. I know that the world is a beautiful place worth fighting for. I know this because of you. When I think of you I feel my heart, not the one that beats, rather the one that feels. Seventeen years here on earth, I have seen bad people and good people, but you Ryan, I know to be the best. For reasons I can 't quite explain, I see you more clearly than other people. I see your struggles and your triumphs, but mostly I see your heart. I am truly blessed to have a person like you in my life, a person who makes hope look so tangible, so real. ~Morgan

 

Wednesday, June 18, 2014

Crime Talk: Why I Believe Morgan Ingram Was Murdered (Part 1 - Drug Levels)

 
I believe Morgan Ingram was murdered. Listen to my podcast where I address my reasons for not only believing, but knowing this was in fact a homicide.
 
For more information, please visit www.morganingram.com today.


Sunday, April 27, 2014

Morgan Ingram: Exclusive Interview with Toni Ingram

Toni and Steve Ingram with their daughter
Morgan Ingram.

Morgan Ingram was found dead on December 2, 2011. Although the case is closed, there are many who have questions about her case. And the big question still remains, why is the case closed?

When I first interviewed Mrs. Ingram back in December 2012, she exposed various discrepancies in her daughter's investigation that were so baffling, I've had to endure quite a few attacks from the suspect's family and friends just for allowing this woman to exercise her 1st amendment rights. Need-less to say, the reception was tremendous.

Today I speak with Toni Ingram again. Only this time, about the progress of Morgan's case, other inconsistencies she's discovered since we last spoke, and life after Morgan. And here is what she had to say:


(Q) Hello Toni. How are you? How has life been since we last spoke?


Hello Sarah. Time has brought many revelations to us about Morgan’s stalking and death, it has also brought some very disquieting clarity. The facts dribble in and they never cease to have some level of shock attached to every single one. Steve and I have learned, and pieced together so many things that I did not know during our last interview, so in answer to your question… yes, I am doing as well as can be expected, some days are gut-wrenching, and ghastly, mostly when new details in Morgan’s case are brought to my attention, or properly interpreted, but then at the end of each day I know Morgan is still around with her gentle touch encouraging me on.

Every single day that I am graced with living on this earth, and being allowed to give a voice to Morgan, as well as other victims that are unable to speak for themselves, is a blessing. It is still extremely painful to wake up every morning knowing that I will no longer hear Morgan’s voice, or listen to her play her keyboard and sing, or ask me to watch her working on her latest ballet movement. Whenever Steve and I take road trips now, I inevitably look behind me towards the back seat expecting to see Morgan napping, or listening to music on her headphones - we all had so much fun travel-ing together, bringing her friends along, with so much laughter, and great memories being created.

I always feel her presence, and miss her so very much, and know I will up until the day I die. She was not only my youngest daughter, she was my best friend, and teacher. Morgan was very spiritually enlightened, and we talked every day - I miss her, I miss it all, so very much.


(Q) I have to ask...in Morgan's toxicology reports, it says that she had 7,909 ng of Amitriptyline in her blood. According to several pathologists and toxicologists, 900-1,000 ng of Amitriptyline is lethal. If 900 ng is able to kill a 115 pound girl, how can one explain 7,909 ng of Amitriptyline in her blood?


This has been such a big question in her death, especially in the first year, before more facts came out, but to recount, on December 19th, exactly 21 days after finding Morgan dead in her bed, I received, in the most odd manner I must add, the 1st Postmortem Report with her toxicology results attached. I remember reading so many mistakes, and things that were just not true, the first being the situation surrounding how we (her parents) found her that morning, it was completely wrong!

How can that possibly be I thought, and I shot off an email to the lead detective about this, which of course he said was going to be corrected, and which of course, never was. Then there was the contracted pathologist reporting on Morgan’s rumored one time drug use, but right there in her tox screen, there was no alcohol, no illegal drugs, in fact only prescription drugs she was not taking, it was an amazing document of misrepresenting everything except the fact that she was a young, healthy woman, and she was in fact dead. So many have written to me to express how they feel Morgan was completely victimized in that report.

I have to say the same contracted pathologist was involved in another recent high profile case of criminally negligent homicide, and the Colorado Supreme Court ruled that his report was to be excluded from the trial as it would only serve to confuse the jurors. What kind of a pathologist is that I ask? His report on the death can’t be introduced as it will only serve to confuse the jury? In Morgan’s 1st report he stated she died from natural causes, this was attributed to an illness that she was NEVER diagnosed with at any time in her life.

Morgan’s long time, very brilliant, doctor at UCLA was all over this obvious error. It is absolutely maddening to me that this pathologist continues on, allowed to perform autopsies. And then of course was this number alongside the Amitriptyline found in her blood on the tox report, I certainly did not know what it meant except that something that should not have been there was. For many months or so I was told it was of no consequence, to be ignored in other words. Yet other forensic experts were telling me the exact opposite, that it was a massive dose, could not possibly be ignored, in fact it was off the charts. You name the adjective, I have heard it.

I knew she was not taking that drug, just as I knew she had once taken a very low dose, like one tenth of the prescription people are given for depression, in Morgan’s case it was for pain, in the past she was dealing with complications from long term chronic exposure to Carbon Monoxide. I also knew very well, and could document how Morgan made a choice to stop taking any prescription medications well over a year before her mysterious death. I have also been told that the ratios of certain chemicals clearly point to this massive amount of amitriptyline as being a one time event. Morgan was a fighter, she wanted to have a long, strong, and healthy life through diet, exercise and holistic, natural methods, she wanted children someday, and she had begun most admirably along this path yet was not allowed to fully succeeded in her goal, that was stripped from her when her life was cut short.

She had not even had a prescription for the drug Amitriptyline in well over a year. Did not take it, pharmacy records, calls to every pharmacy, and doctors for Morgan all bear out the same conclusion, and I would be the first to speak up if they did not, I want the truth, always have and always will. Morgan would even turn down an offer of an aspirin at times when she had a bad headache. I questioned the lead detective in charge of Morgan’s felony stalking case, as well as the forensic pathologist that did her autopsy as the facts piled up that something was seriously amiss here. I was told by the contracted pathologist that the parents are the last to know.

Then came the threats, drop all these questions, or else. I was angry because I knew she wasn’t taking it, and wanted to know how it could have been in her blood, what kind of investigation is this? What people not closely involved easily miss is how vociferously this contracted pathologist defended his initial opinions, until he changed them eight months later. Morgan’s blood level of Amitriptyline was not only significant - it was the absolute most likely cause of her death, plain and simple, medical fact.


(Q) Wow, and there were only a few Amitriptyline pills missing from the expired prescription bottle? I have to ask, this Amitriptyline prescription from 2009, was this found in Morgan's bathroom?


An old expired pill bottle from 2009 was found in her bathroom, positioned on the top of a pile of random things, in a place where Morgan would never pile anything. It has been described by a retired Federal Special Agent like looking as if someone was creating a "shrine" or staging it. I know without a doubt that Morgan would NEVER have left any bottles of old medication out where her puppy could get into them. Her bathroom door was always kept open to her room, her puppy was always in that bathroom, she fed her puppy in there.

Morgan kept all old bottles of medications and other things inside a plastic bin under sink in her bathroom cabinet. We never knew, or believed for one instant at the time that her stalker could have been in our house while we were all away, we very mistakenly thought we were safe, that Morgan was somehow safe, but now we have been educated on the subject and completely believe the stalker had been in the house, many times,and knew just where Morgan’s things were.

Now I always caution victims of stalking that your stalker seeks to invade your life and will invade as deeply as he or she can, that nothing is off limits. I believe Morgan’s stalker was a predatory stalker and it is absolutely chilling to read the traits for this type of stalker, because it mirrors what happened to Morgan, right down to her death!


(Q) The amount of Amitriptyline in her gastric fluids was quite high, however there are other drugs that were also in her system that make everything questionable. Drugs that you didn't have in the house, let alone drugs that Morgan would never have access to. And the pathologist still said this was suicide?


Actually one part of that is a misconception, the numbers in the millions seem high, but in all likelihood, they are not high at all. There was one number I needed to make absolute sense of her gastric contents, but of course that number could not be shared with me, what on earth are they so afraid of, this is an investigation, isn’t it? After multiple phone calls, and the threats that the contracted pathologist could revisit the Amitriptyline level if I did not give up trying to have her manner of death corrected, remember this would be the same Amitriptyline level that he was saying was inconsequential at that time, and then the implication was clearly that he could find entirely something else.

I had reported the threats to not only the Coroner, but to the Sheriff as well. They said nothing! I had been told repeatedly by the contracted pathologist that since he didn’t see any pills or pill fragments in her stomach contents the first time that he could not find the things he later threatened to do. It is all so amazingly wrong. Around this same time, the local FBI tried to set up a meeting for us to be able to voice our concerns. They were quite confident they would be able to arrange a meeting right away, but of course they were shut down completely by the county as well. I truly wish for other grieving families to never have to go through what we have been through, there is just no logical reason, and the pain is unending. So late summer that first summer I got a call, the deputy coroner has a request from the local newspaper under the freedom of information act to release a new manner of death for Morgan, and he wants to fax us the document first.

Shock and more lies, the freedom of information act is federal, it only applies to federal documents, not state, and far more importantly, just how did the local newspaper know there even was a new manner of death to request? We as her parents did not even know - we had not yet been contacted! Morgan’s doctors wanted to see more tests run that could point to answers, but we then found out that tests had been conducted in secrecy! Why? And of course it is all another blow to Morgan, the contracted forensic pathologist finally made good on his threats and changed Morgan’s manner of death from natural causes to suicide after 8 months. This same forensic pathologist stated his reason for the change to be the result of one test run on her gastric fluid. He reported this, as well as the estimated number of pills she had taken. This number was exactly the number missing from an old bottle that was not even in her room, it was a pill bottle Steve had with other expired medications that were to be disposed of that he had given to the sheriffs, never mind that I have been assured that nobody can know the number of pills.

There has never been another doctor who believes this number of pills he is referring to represents a lethal dose! And it gets even worse, the actual reasoning is not contained anywhere in the actual report, but it is instead in a letter referring to a phone conversation between the contracted pathologist and the coroner. The pathologist would not even put it in writing and sign it! I was so absolutely distraught at what they were doing to Morgan, it was all wrong, and of all the people to be labeled as she now was seemed beyond belief! This was also at a time when tormentors who cause their victims to commit suicide were being held accountable and successfully prosecuted all across the country. Nobody in the county would even respond to that question when I asked it. That was a rough, rough time, Steve and I could have easily chosen to turtle, if it wasn’t for the blog coming into its own, we might have. It would be a long time before enough evidence would surface to help quell the absolute disgust and mistrust I felt at that time.

And as for all the other drugs found on the tox report on the second PER, theories abound for the actual presence of these other drugs in Morgan’s gastric contents. The contracted pathologist names only two drugs, but there are in fact five, with no official mention or explanation for the others. Sarah, we found out much later that there is a big problem with Morgan’s gastric contents, some of the drugs that should have been absorbed were not absorbed at all, in fact none of the other drugs in her stomach were detected in her blood, except for Amitriptyline, leading to the big problem, how can one thing be absorbed, but not another right alongside it, that with extreme medical certainty should have been? Now how does that happen, really? In the real world of fact-based science results can’t be ignored because they are inconvenient, but not in what is a capital crime.

For the contracted pathologist however, it was not a problem at all to base Morgan’s suicide on her gastric contents containing Amitriptyline, yet he will not be able to explain the single impossibility that there were six drugs found in her gastric contents, and only amitriptyline was only found in her blood. And like everything else it just gets worse, as you bring up any of these other drugs that were never, ever used by Morgan, and they were never, ever in our home. In fact one of the drugs is not even available for humans, and has not been for over ten years. Just that fact alone should have raised an eyebrow, don’t you think? All the drugs are all part of the lab’s standard sexual assault panel, and a rape kit was never administered on Morgan, I have a vile revulsion to have to say this, but it should have been done, no excuse, it should have absolutely been done as part of any investigation.

Can I say the stalker most likely broke into our house, not once but numerous times, knew Morgan had an old bottle of Amitriptyline pills in a plastic bin in her bathroom, just didn’t ever read the entire label to know they were really quite old, but then the investigators apparently never got around to reading the label either. The entire gastric content revelation was so horrifying, because as we found out, Morgan was either dead, or very near dead when all these drugs were introduced into her stomach, and just how does this happen? All of the explanations for how this happens, that I have heard so far are not something you would wish on anyone. That my daughter was forced to go through this just compounds our families pain all the more.


(Q) I am sorry, it must be very tough for you, there was mention that theAmitriptyline was used to treat acute Porphyria. Is that true?


It is absolutely not true. On a phone call with the contracted pathologist I was trying to explain that Morgan did not take Amitriptyline, that she worked very hard to stop taking all prescription medications in the past. That she had succeeded and that there was a doctor who helped her with this. Do you think the contracted pathologist, or any other investigator ever talked with this doctor? Of course not. When I told him and the detective she was not taking Amitriptyline the contracted pathologist’s answer was that parents are always the last to know, it was in her blood, so she took it. Then very surprising, and to show his complete ignorance on the subject, he added that she took it for her porphyria, which is so ridiculous, it is hard to believe that conversation took place, but it did.

Looking back now he was trying to state two conflicting arguments at the same time, (1) the parents are the last to know, and (2) she took it medically for her porphyria because she had it in her blood, this would be the porphyria her doctors were telling him she never had. I was assured unequivocally that if Morgan was never diagnosed with porphyria in her lifetime it could not be a cause of death, absent some conclusive test to indicate she did. Such a test did not exist, but what does exist is pages of emails from one of Morgan’s doctors explaining the many reasons that Morgan did not have porphyria, to which the contracted pathologist replied that he did not understand why the parents were flip flopping about porphyria. It pains me more than I can ever express to run through the completely illogical twist on facts that we were, and still are mired in.


(Q) Tell me a little about the autopsy photos that you discovered since we last spoke...


That was easily the second worse day of my life - the first unthinkable horror was the day we found Morgan dead, and then came the second - looking at pictures of Morgan the morning we found her body, now over a year and a half later, and the condition she was in, and the condition of her room. Her nails that showed damage at the viewing, days after her death, and the lead detective assured Steve and I that he had looked at the pictures taken the morning of her death, and her nails were in perfect condition before her body was taken away.

The first enhancement of one of those photos tells an entirely different story. Just that one glimpse is burnt into my memory, it is horrifying - that indicates defensive wounds! These are photos that were actually taken by the Deputy Coroner, they are not autopsy photos. The autopsy photos and notes have been requested many times, not even to touch our hands, but to be sent on to other professionals for a complete second opinion, but they have never sent them, and never even answered our requests. I have come to fear they are all destroyed now, as we have recently discovered other crucial evidence that has been destroyed.

But the day those photos came, and for weeks after, Steve and I did not know what to think, we were just in shock, you could say we were walking wounded really. When you find your daughter unresponsive in her bed, and then try to revive her with CPR until the EMT’s come, and then you are asked to leave the room so the first responders can do their best, and then you hear them talking, and you know she is dead, in that time frame you really don’t stand back and stare, taking it all in, beginning to notice all the many clues…no, the one thing I did see and did express that morning was that she was not sleeping in a normal position at all when I found her.

She was on the wrong side of the bed, never slept there, facing the opposite direction that she always faced, she would not have been able to reach her emergency call button, which we later found was removed from its mounting and was on the floor, Morgan looked posed, which is exactly what I told many different people that morning, investigators, arriving family, and friends. Unfortunately, I completely believed and trusted what the lead detective in her felony stalking case was telling me that morning. I guess, who wouldn’t, I really wanted to believe that what he was saying was all true. He said there was no evidence of breaking and entering, no sign of a sexual attack, no sign of a struggle, no sign of suicide, and her death had nothing to do with her felony stalking case, no connection.

He said right now her death was a mystery until the autopsy was completed, and the toxicology results were back. Six months later we started asking for all the autopsy information, along with any pictures, notes, etc. that could be sent off for a second opinion. All our requests have never been answered and we never received a response until the pictures came one year and nine months after her death. After we got over the initial shock of the pictures we consulted immediately with a very respected forensic pathologist, and a conference call with Steve and I followed. During that conference call we were introduced to the biggest, absolute it can’t be, waving a red flag moment of Morgan’s death so far. We had tried to convey what we saw that morning to many different experts who have helped us to get at the truth and justice for Morgan along our path, but having actual images for them to now see quickly changed everything.

We heard what was explained to us on that conference call, but I must admit it took days to really sink in, it was surreal actually. In an instant, all the previous findings of the first manner of death being called natural causes, in which the forensic pathologist that did her autopsy was absolutely positive of, and then the change of the manner of death to suicide, that same pathologist was equally positive of, all that became inconsequential with the fact that Morgan had not died in the position Steve and I found her in that morning. From the pictures it was quite positive, and then some. This meant that her body had been moved postmortem, a very basic death scene essential. Morgan did not die in the position that Steve and I found her in. I’ll repeat that so there is no doubt - Morgan’s body was moved after she had died. She was staged in the position that we found her in that morning. A dead body can not move on its own - I actually asked this question to be 100% positive - someone else has to move the body, and pose it. Her body had been posed, she did not die in the position that Steve and I found her in - exactly my first impression that I had told the officers was correct an infinitesimally small consolation.

And it gets even worse from there, as if that is remotely possible, but it does. The clothes she was re-dressed in were not completely buttoned, or zipped, and left no impressions, all certain red flags too, we have been told. To get really clinical about my daughters death is so difficult. All the little details seen in the photographs. I can’t share them all, but suffice to say her pants were not buttoned, or zipped. First, Morgan never wore pants to bed, and then bodies begin to swell sometime after death, tight pants eventually can’t be buttoned and I’ll leave it at that. There were many other clues in those pictures that were revealed to us, some that Steve and I could pick out by ourselves, and others that some very amazing investigators have picked out. But really? No sign of struggle? No sign of an intruder? No sign of a sexual assault? Really? A bubbling, overflowing anger overcame me for weeks, maybe even months after seeing those pictures, and describing what I felt as just being anger would not even begin to explain the feelings I had. How dare they? To block all our efforts, to allow our family to struggle through the pain, while we kept pushing for the truth, and that truth we had to learn painful piece, by searing piece. These facts revealed themselves to us and as they came out we had to take them and run to an expert for their interpretation. Does that remotely sound like an investigation into the mystery of her death? Does that sound like we, as victims as well, were treated with dignity and respect?


(Q) Wow, and there were unidentified marks on Morgan's face?


Yes, there were. Small but very obvious, blood in places, not just her face, but other places as well, and I would rather not discuss all of those at this time. All I can say is that Morgan did not deserve to suffer as she did, and I will never rest until the truth comes out and justice is served, not only to the person that took her life, but to all those who have worked so hard to consciously conceal the truth.


(Q) Looking back, I am still baffled that none of Morgan's friends were interviewed. I must ask again, why weren't they interviewed?


The why, as with so many other whys in Morgan’s death get lost, in part because there are so many questions and a level of importance attached to each. I feel as I have said many times, that the truth never changes. It is important to realize that it is not a matter or reopening an investigation that was closed - there never was an investigation into Morgan’s death - none. An investigation that would begin now, two and a half years later, would be the first one. Some very burning questions could be answered, and there could be a clear direction, I’m very confident of that because my opinions are the opinions of doctors and other professionals that do this every day, they are excellent and completely capable in what they are doing, and working with very little they have been able to expose many facts that say Morgan was the victim of foul play. Of that there can be no doubt.

I am not an expert, and I rely on others who are to tell me what the the lab results and the pictures really say. That is my focus, our focus, Steve and I. And then someday will come interviews of her teachers, fellow college students, close friends, lifelong friends, family members and employer - all who were never interviewed. Most of these people had little idea of the true magnitude of her stalking. Most people don’t understand how invasive and constant stalking is. Morgan told people about her stalker, including his name and specific incidents, but since these people were never interviewed, none of what they would have said is in any of the reports. Quite a gaping hole I would say, not one shred of the fairness, respect, or dignity guaranteed by the Colorado Revised Statutes and the Colorado State Constitution. In fact it has been just the opposite for Morgan.

And her friends as well, the person she spent the afternoon before her death with was actually challenged by the sheriffs to "prove" his claims that Morgan had been driving him around to apply for a job - here he was the one being actively investigated, while never an investigation of the stalker. Does anyone really think that when the sheriffs department pulled up to our house that fateful morning, after four months of stalking that just kept getting worse and worse, after Morgan had identified her stalker many times to Steve and I, to the detectives, to the deputies, to her classmates, to her friends and their parents, and just days before her death the lead detective tells me he believes the stalking is going to escalate and he is going to increase the nightly patrols, then the sheriffs department increase their patrols, and now Morgan is dead and we are told her death has nothing to do with her felony stalking! How can I possibly not believe that they knew something they were not telling us.

Then Morgan is found dead, half dressed and staged in her bed, and within minutes of his arrival this same lead detective can say with certainty that the stalker was not involved, "no connection to her stalking." What is that? When right then the parents are saying they found her in position A and the sheriffs can see that she died in position B. They even write in reports about how they can tell what position she died in, and there is no investigation about that glaring, crime scene 101 discrepancy? Her tox results come back with a massive amount of Amitriptyline and then that is said to be inconsequential, completely ignored as a cause of her death! Morgan took it for her porphyria, the pathologist tells us! The porphyria that her doctors are telling this same contracted pathologist she never had. There are no pills or pill fragments seen in her stomach, this fact is well documented, then eight months later there are pill fragments in the same gastric contents?

Morgan’s friends get that sick, I can’t even think about this look, when any of this is brought up. They are also so very upset the stalker was never even arrested for stalking, given a free pass. Morgan was a very principled and caring young woman. Anyone that knew Morgan came to respect what she stood for, except a very few that will seek to discredit her now because they have to. After her death we came across a bag full of little notes, all from the young children that she babysat for - they were children of military families at various retreats in Colorado, all of the little children wrote these little notes to Morgan saying how much they loved and adored her, it was so heart filling for Steve and I.

I have to add that another weekend of babysitting at another retreat for military families was where Morgan was headed to the day her body was found, that is who Morgan was, it can’t be taken away by the few who work so hard at portraying something about Morgan that is not there, and is not true, it is very sad.


(Q) I am hearing quite a few rumors through the grapevine that the lead detective in this case is running for Coroner. Why do you think he would do this?


He is running for Coroner. Many of Morgan’s supporters have written to me about this, even pointing out that this detective believes death scenes need medico legal investigation that is not happening now. I applaud him for bringing up the fact that investigations now are based on nothing. You see quite a hole that exists in Colorado, it is up to the Coroner to draft or adopt rules for investigating a death scene. In Morgan’s case the Coroner had no such rules, there were no rules. In a capital crime there can be no rules governing the investigation? But on this same point, officials at the state have pointed out that investigations fall on local sheriffs departments, which the lead detective was part of in Morgan’s death, so I am very cautious of the true intention of this claim. To right the wrong for Morgan is a goal, and a bigger goal is to prevent this same never-ending nightmare loop for others, so naturally I hope for the best outcome in this. It is important to note that autopsies are governed by state laws.

And as far as any compassion for the family, while it has been lacking all the way around since Morgan’s death, the Coroner’s office has been far more forthcoming with copies in their possession, while the sheriff has absolutely not been forthcoming or cooperative at all. As a glaring example, all Morgan’s jewelry of value was missing after her death. At first this was a key point for the lead investigator and discussed with me many times, questions such as, "Was it from a boyfriend, or family member, when was the last time I am was sure I had seen it, could I search again to be sure it was really gone." I did everything requested, who wouldn’t?

And the more I searched the more jewelry was determined to be missing, gone. One piece in particular, a bracelet Morgan had borrowed from me, and I had seen in the evening in her room, on her shelf next to her jewelry box before she came home, and then it was gone. Then it gets worse, the prime suspect is involved in a heist of jewelry being peddled at a cash for gold store very shorty after her death, but to show us pictures of the heist to see if we can identify any as Morgan’s missing jewelry is balked at by the lead detective. He really said that to do that would be the worst example of poor police work. I guess that would be in contrast to the textbook investigation by the sheriffs of Morgan’s death scene, but I digress. I point out that if we recognize a piece perhaps we can then produce a picture with Morgan wearing the jewelry - I had already given him a verbal detailed description of most of the pieces. Sort of like the famous moment with the picture of OJ wearing the shoes he said he would never own.

That was balked at as well, and Steve and I had to then produce a picture of Morgan with every piece of jewelry she ever owned or there was nothing the detective could do. So in the end, all of Morgan’s jewelry of value was stolen on the night she met with foul play - a crime in and of itself I would think! First degree burglary, somebody did it, and it was not Morgan. So why was there never a report about the missing jewelry, a complete reluctance, no not just reluctance, complete refusal to ever investigate this? Getting back to the Coroner’s election, in the state of Colorado the Coroner has far more power than people realize. For Morgan’s sake I obviously want to avoid standing between the Coroner and the Sheriff as they try to point fingers at each other, serves no purpose for Morgan, or other situations like hers.


(Q) Have you been trying to get this case reopened?


We have been trying in every way possible. Clarifying again, it is not reopened because there never was an investigation into her death, Morgan needs to have an investigation that begins at step one and proceeds, although now it would seem to be a very unwieldily, all encompassing type of investigation. As Steve tells people it’s as if for some reason it could never be a case from the very beginning. I see it as the wagons being circled around the suspect. Either way it has prevented any investigation of anything relating to her death except to review basic labs, and come to very flawed conclusions. We now know that the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI) is not legally allowed to open, or take over a case unless invited in by local law enforcement, or the District Attorney - so their hands are tied.

When the Sheriff’s office states they will never open her case, and refuses to allow the CBI to come in and poke around there seems to be not much that can happen at the state level. But that will not stop us - we now know there were not only many State laws broken, but Federal laws as well, and we will definitely pursue them all. It is a very painful step-by-step process that even if successful will not bring Morgan back. Having Morgan back is the one thing I would give anything to have happen, and it is the one thing I can never have happen. Meanwhile we have learned not to place too much on any one event, and to keep moving forward.


(Q) So, if law enforcement refuses to open the case and the District Attorney also refuses to open it, how would you get the case opened otherwise?


The proverbial million dollar question. We do know that when we finally get justice for Morgan we will have a road map for others. Colorado finds itself in an embarrassing, and very self destructive situations far too often. I believe it is about basic issues that were ignored and allowed to fester until the inevitable, almost predictable ending comes. Morgan’s death carries so much of the same, as did her stalking. Ignoring the stalking paved the way for her death, and Steve and I are left with only pieces. We reassess on a regular basis, and try to be dynamic in what we do. There is a single goal and we never lose sight of that. For now the District Attorney is relying on the information from the Sheriffs and the Coroner, the Coroner really shouldn’t be, but is also relying on information from the Sheriffs, so right now it always comes back to the Sheriffs unexplainable, and incomprehensible stance to, "Never open an investigation into Morgan death" in what is a capital crime. That is a very festering problem in my opinion that hopefully will be corrected before it can happen again.

Along with the Sheriff stating that, "My officers were out to the Ingram’s house over fifty times, and never saw a stalker." Just a sound bite, in reality the officers would drive up and sit idling in the street every time, long enough for any stalker to have retreated to cover long before they ever looked for him, making the possibility of an officer ever seeing him astronomical. We have a picture of the stalker watching the deputies drive away, so not to sound flippant at all, but maybe they should have looked over their shoulders once in a while. Justice for Morgan and other cases like hers that seem to slip through the cracks all too often will always be my primary concern. Right now Steve and I are still on our journey, but I am confident there will come a day that we will have that road map for others that are faced with this same situation.


(Q) When people look at this case, they attempt to paint you as an overbearing mother who can't accept that her daughter committed suicide. What would you like these people to know?


I am not overbearing. I am however a very involved mother who encouraged and facilitated my children to be all that they could be. To accurately express the traits of Morgan you would have to really know Morgan and you would really have to know our family. In any investigation there are things that only the killer would know. These are kept close to the vest, and Steve and I are no doubt less than perfect at handling the role we have been thrust into. The role of deciding what pieces of evidence to keep to ourselves, and what to share. I will add that there are bits of information that even the killer does not know exist, they were right in front of him, and they were right out in plain sight that morning. Steve and I looked, but did not see them for what they were, and did not realize until it was properly interpreted for us by those who are absolutely amazing at what they do. Time will be the ultimate judge as to the voracity of the bits and pieces that have been exposed, and until that day they wait.

And back to the overbearing mother question, I have to add that while I know I was not overbearing, I would term what Steve and I were doing was our best to be protective because yes, my youngest daughter was being stalked, and I was very frightened that something bad might happen to her, and horrifically it did. So I am left to wish I had been even more protective. My intuition told me to be even more concerned than I was, but I didn’t listen to my inner voice, I wanted to believe her stalking would just end and I trusted the Sheriffs and what I was being told, in the process I lost my daughter. Morgan loved being with her dad and I - if any of her close friends were asked that question they would have been more than happy to talk about Morgan’s relationship with us. I went with her to concerts, birthday parties, weddings, volunteer work, and yoga, she wanted to take a self defense class with me a month before her murder, but we never did - we should have, it might have helped her. Being with Morgan was a complete joy.

She was kind, loving, and fun to be with. She spent most of her time with school, friends and her animals, but still asked at times if she could go on errands with me in order to have some daughter/mom talks. For the first year after her death I would drive to do those same errands, and cry when I would look at the passenger seat next to me, thundering with its emptiness. Morgan was also a very strong and confident young woman. During her struggle with hyperalgisia, she was afraid to travel by herself, and rightly so, but after she took charge of her own health and became strong and healthy she started to travel on her own, first to California, then Hawaii, among other places. She really enjoyed the independence that her health allowed her to enjoy.

We would all joke with Morgan every time she traveled by herself that it was, "Morgie’s big adventure." Morgie was the nickname that her dad and I called her. So if people want to believe I was an overbearing mother that can’t accept that my daughter committed suicide all I can say is that they are entitled to their opinion, but I do have great confidence that the facts say otherwise. This phenomenon of victim blaming, and victim bashing happens a lot. Morgan was a victim of felony stalking, and died under suspicious circumstances. The suspicious circumstances have only gotten more suspicious with every new discovery we have made. I believe any mother that loved their child would continue to fight for the truth to come out. Yes, it is painful, and yes it is not fair, but it is what it is, and it is now my journey. I refuse to allow anything that distracts me from getting justice for Morgan.


(Q) I really believe the case should be reopened. In fact, I am still confused myself as to why it is closed. So many unanswered questions and yet, you have been unable to garner closure and properly grieve. My prayers are with you and I really hope that you find answers soon.


You are so correct - how can families of murdered or missing children ever have closure if their cases are not investigated? It can’t happen, and instead of being able to properly grieve, parents and many other loved ones are thrown into a daily process of having to ask themselves very painful questions, and somehow push for answers. The instruction book on how to do this has not been written yet and it is, unfortunately for our society, sorely needed. These victims deserve justice and their families deserve answers. There is no way on earth that being told that you have to look through every photo of your dead daughter, 10’s of thousands in our case, and cull out every one with jewelry or else nothing can ever be done about the burglary that happened in her room on the night she died is a fair request by law enforcement.

But back to the question about what we do know now about what actually happened to Morgan - we know so much more than what we knew the morning we found her, even more than six months ago, or one year ago, or even two years ago. It has now been two years, and four months since we lost Morgan, and we are still getting more information, and following up on possibilities. I believe since our local law enforcement does not want Morgan’s case to be opened we have been in a huge uphill battle, just think of how many ways they can shut you down...does that mean that her case will never get opened? No, I do not believe that, I believe we are getting very, very close to getting her case open. We have been contacted by supporters, as well as experts that have told us they have called to speak with the Sheriff’s office, as well as the forensic pathologist’s office with information to assist in opening Morgan’s case, but they have been told the case is closed, and then they are hung up on. What if someone were to call with a tip as to just what really happened, in the current climate they would be hung up on.

The block walls we have encountered, and the lack of response have all contributed to a really bad situation only becoming worse. We are thankful to have the knowledge we completely lacked up till now, but it has quite a ways to go to begin to lift Morgan, and all those who cared so much about her from the mire that has been created. The brutal truth is that stalking goes hand in hand with terrorizing, bullying, control, sexual dominance, breaking and entering, property damage, theft and homicide. Hand in hand, victims of stalking have to always know this. You should be warned to expect one or all from your stalker, we were never fully prepared, and we were always a step behind, Morgan was the one who paid the ultimate price for this. My husband and I as Morgan’s parents have no doubt that our daughter - Morgan Jennifer Ingram would be alive today except for the actions of her stalker, and his co-conspirators.

We believe only truth will allow for closure, and only the truth. So Steve and I started Morgan’s website (www.morgansstalking.com) on June 6, 2011, along with the blog. The website was put together in order to tell Morgan’s story, and raise awareness of the dangers of stalking in order to help others, and to get justice for Morgan. The blog has been even more effective as a tool against stalking, with well over 5 million views and still counting. Morgan’s stalker/murderer is still out there, and if you were to ask me if he will do it again - I can give you a very affirmative answer, YES.

Although many laws have been broken, there are many hearts that have been too. Morgan Ingram is now the voice, the force, and the face of stalking. If anyone has any information about the Morgan Ingram case, please do contact the Ingram's directly by visiting www.morgansstalking.com today.

Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Exclusive Interview with Toni Ingram, a mother with a voice and a message

Imagine waking up one day to news that your daughter is dead. About a year ago, Toni Ingram received just that. Her daughter Morgan Ingram was murdered in their Colorado home just months after her 20th birthday and several weeks before Christmas, on December 2nd 2011. Recently, I had the opportunity to speak with Toni Ingram about Morgan life and life after Morgan's death. 

Hello Toni. Tell me about Morgan and the type of person that she was...

 Morgan was a sweet, quiet, Bohemian, and Zen Buddhist type of girl. She loved animals and had as many as we would let her have. Everything from dogs to cats to horses to rabbits to ferrets to birds and much more. There was always two at a time. One summer she had a mouse that traveled with her.

 Growing up in the computer age, she was driven to learn and explore the World Wide Web. She considered games to be more of a distraction, but was quick to point out as she grew, that we had to learn that everything was done through social media these days.

 She was extremely close with me and Steve, as parents. Even more so than our older two. They both had sports that took them away regularly, whereas; Morgan preferred to stay-at-home and engage in the arts, where she taught herself how to sing and play piano. Morgan also loved knitting, crocheting, and painting. She told us that the best things in her life were her family and that some of her best memories were traveling with us.

 Morgan grew up in Colorado, where she loved the outdoors. Whether a short hike to a quiet place where she could write in her journals or a hike somewhere where she could paint, Morgan appreciated everything artistically. Winter sports never garnered her interest, but she decided to take up rock climbing. When her life was cut short, she never had a chance to get into it, as much as she wished she would.

 Although she missed her first two years of high school, as a mysterious illness which was promoted by carbon monoxide exposure found its way into her life, Morgan went on to Junior College instead. At just 18, Morgan was only a few credits shy of graduating with a two year, Associates degree, when most of her friends were just coming out of high school.

 We encouraged her to slow down and enjoy trying new things before heading off to the University for her Bachelor's degree, so she decided to take up ballet and jazz dance. Morgan bought cookbooks and learned pastry chef 101. She also discovered photography, which became almost an obsession. I'll never forget the day Steve bought her two 16GB memory cards for her camera. She was just so happy. It was simply the best gift she could have ever asked for.

 My daughter was a strong, intuitive, and confident woman. She was a Leo and very knowledgeable about horoscopes, as she possessed an amazing ability to tell people what sign they were just by talking to them. She studied chakras and taught herself Lithuanian from an ever growing stack of index cards she made with both languages on them and was turning to mastering French when the stalking begun.

 Morgan loved deep conversations and learning. Her goal was to be a lawyer for women's rights. She believed strongly in causes that caught her attention over the years. She loved children and always enjoyed volunteer work. She had many close friends. At one time we thought she had no enemies, however; she did have one...and sometimes, that is all it takes.

 
She truly sounds exceptional. Taking you back to the day that your daughter was "murdered", what went through your mind when you were told "your daughter is dead"...

 We knew before we were told. Steve had an experience three weeks prior which consisted of finding a very dear friend dead on his couch and while he tried not to believe it, here he was now doing CPR on Morgan. He tried everything he could to revive her. He shared his worst fears with me before the first responders arrived.

 The reality was numbing. I could not focus or think. This was a horrific dream. This was never something to happen in real life. Steve was yelling for Morgan to take his last breath. He was yelling for me to move my car from the driveway for the ambulance. Somehow I was able to do that. I could follow instructions and respond if I had to, but otherwise things were distant to the immediate truth and reality of it all.

 I saw so many things that I will never forget. She appeared blue for an instant. I told my husband that she was suffocating. He tried mouth-to-mouth and told me her jaw was locked. I felt her and she was warm. Her eyes were open and I wanted them to blink, just once. I wanted her to jerk and to spit out a mouthful of water, but she never moved.

 The first responders were asking us to leave and talking about her rigor. I saw one shaking his head, as he looked like he wanted to cry. I burst into tears and just stopped. As more people kept arriving, the urgency that had filled my house died. I remember holding my husband Steve and asking why. What could have happened? How could this happen?

 Once Morgan was pronounced dead, I don't have a real clear memory. If that was shock, it was my first experience with it. I don't want to remember it, but I will never forget that morning. I do remember one thing I was thinking, when they actually said the words that "our daughter was dead". I started telling myself over and over again, please let me have a do-over, let this be yesterday, and I will take her far, far away and none of this would have ever happened. I kept telling myself this for a very long time.

 
I am sorry to hear about your loss. Morgan was a beautiful soul and didn't deserve this at all. I am curious, what were you told?

My husband Steve was told that our house was now a crime scene and that we needed to get dressed and leave the house for a while. They asked if there was a place we could go nearby. Steve talked to our next door neighbor who agreed to allow us to use their house. Friends of ours that lived nearby arrived on the scene to help me with my things. Luckily our next door neighbor had a fully stocked vacation home, so we didn't take much and just went.

 When we left, there was already crime scene tape across the front yard. It was so surreal. They were helping me under the tape, as I continued to cry off and on. I found myself settling into a chair next to Steve. I received numerous calls from friends. I knew we needed to tell her brother and sister right away. My husband was having trouble talking on the phone, so he decided to text people. I remember going through my contacts and naming the ones that had to know right away. Godparents, cousins, etc. Nobody could believe what we were telling them and basically that is how the next few hours went. Watching my husband and my friends convince people of something, I did not believe myself.
After weeks upon weeks and then months went by, did anyone contact you? If so, what did they say? What were you told again?

 Actually, I was the one doing most of the contacting. The very first morning, a dear friend of mine showed up with absolutely shocking information. A neighbor down the street had confessed that he knew who the stalker was and had known for some time. He confessed this to a client of his and his client called my friend regarding the strange confession, but had no idea who it was that he was talking about. Then, my friend knew instantaneously that it was Morgan. When she heard about it, she did not hesitate to tell me about it. I passed this information on to the lead detective, in an effort that he would follow right up on it, but that never happened.

 A few days later, it happened again. At the first service for Morgan, my sister noticed Morgan's nails were torn and proceeded to show me. We were not investigating at all, at the time because we were surviving more in shock than anything else. But once again, I asked the lead detective about the torn nails. I mean, how could this be? We were told there was no sign of struggle. I kept getting this feeling like things weren't happening in the investigation, as things were certainly not adding up.

On the morning we found Morgan, the lead detective was so broken up at first, as he was weeping as bad as Steve and I were. Both detectives were really upset over Morgan's death. First, I told him about the confession and the nails. He said he was going to check into both. Then, as we were packing up her room we discovered more red flags. Things were simply not adding up.

These things include: her costume jewelry was still there, however; her valuable jewelry was missing. Her panic button was torn off at the end table it was mounted to. The pajamas she was wearing to bed that night were missing. Steve noticed scrapes on her hand, a red spot on her forehead, and what he thought could have been blood, but was not, on the side of her lips.

 I spoke to the detective about all of this. We thought the authorities took the pajamas and they messed up the end table, but they didn't. I kept asking, but I was not getting answers and I didn't really know how this all worked. I really expected that they would move towards an investigation in which her death would become an extension of her stalking. I never even questioned the fact that it would not be. I didn't see any other way for it to be. Unless it was for another reason. Did something coincidentally kill her during her stalking other than her stalker? It seemed obvious to me that the most likely thing to look at was the stalker and their stalking as the responsibility for her death.

Up until the first toxicology report, we were told it was officially a mystery. We were told there was no signs of suicide, no signs of any forced entry, and no foul play. Steve and I accepted this as the temporary explanation. When the toxicology report did come back, the first thing we saw about her toxicology screen was that it was completely clean. This meant for days before her death, whether 2 days or even 5 days, her levels were all zero. No illegal drugs, no alcohol. Morgan was not a party girl. In fact, she was considered the designated driver. Then, the cause and manner of death was delivered to us and it made no sense.

 Her cause of death was "Pulmonary Edema" and "Porphyria" and her manner of death was of natural causes. First, there was no investigation into her death. This was troubling enough to us. Morgan did not take any prescription medications. "Oh, the parents are always the last to know", I was told. I corrected them, as I said no. We make the appointments, we pay for the appointments, we go the pharmacy, and we pick up the medications. Somehow this logic did not work for the investigator. It was easier for him to believe that she took something and lied to me about it more so than asking me the truth. My concerns started to grow as more red flags started to arise.

 I sent all of the information we had to Morgan's doctor at UCLA and started asking more questions. I scheduled a conference call with the detective and the pathologist. My husband Steve was there and we went over the following concerns...

 First, Morgan did not have Porphyria. Did he find something to indicate that she did? If it were natural causes, could this be something our grandchildren could die from? After all, it was a worrisome subject. Where do we go from here? We are going out to California to review all of this with Morgan's doctor, who was also very surprised at her sudden death.

 This was the first time that we spoke with the forensic pathologist. We had never spoken with the Coroner yet, but we did notice that the forensic pathologist seemed to be getting rather "testy", like he didn't want to answer too many questions. It was all becoming odd and we waited for answers in Los Angeles.

 At her doctor's house, we went over how well Morgan had been doing and how she continued getting stronger every year. How masterfully she had taken on a strict diet and exercise program to build her system back up beautifully only to have this stalker in her life completely stress her out. After reviewing all of the reports, there was no doubt in her doctor's mind that this was a homicide. This completely floored Steve and I. To be honest, we didn't know what to think until that moment, but we had not thought homicide. It was a complex medical matter and she wanted to talk it over with the pathologist in Colorado. She wanted to explain it to him and assured us that she would take care of it.

Steve and I are not exactly medically educated. He is an artist and I am an executive assistant. We had to believe that Morgan's doctor was correct because she had the credentials and she never failed our daughter. We also started to include other doctors into the mix that we knew well. They all agreed that the pathologist had it all wrong. I didn't know the direction this was going, but I did know that it was happening.

 Only the pathologist was unhappy with this new information. In fact, when we spoke with the pathologist, he started saying that if we continued to pursue the homicide theory, he would have to look again at suicide or accidental overdose. All we could think is - an accidental overdose of what? This became just another question in the ever-growing list. He also said he did not find any pills or even fragments of pills in Morgan's stomach.

 Meanwhile, our daughter-in-law read an article in the local Glenwood Springs newspaper that had an arrest report for Morgan's #1 stalking suspect. Morgan's suspected stalker was arrested on a warrant for selling stolen jewelry. Morgan had missing jewelry. Her stalker was also arrested on felony distribution charges, so everything was only getting more complex.

 I called our detectives about the arrest and they had no idea. The arrest occurred within the Glenwood Springs city limits, so they do not share that kind of information. Our detective now wanted pictures of all of Morgan's jewelry. Steve was very upset with this because he felt like on top of the all of the half answers we were getting and the other tribulations we had to endure, they now wanted us to go through 40,000 pictures and find every single piece of jewelry Morgan had. Steve thought that was insane asking me to do that. So, we started taking matters into our own hands and went directly to the "Cash for Gold" store with what pictures we did have.

 It turns out that the "Cash for Gold" store is very lax. They quickly recognized Morgan's #1 suspect as a customer of the establishment, but as for matching up pictures we had with pictures they had of the jewelry he (the stalker) sold them, well they had no pictures. So, why did the detective insist that we supply pictures instead of descriptions, when not one person, nobody had pictures to compare them with anyway?! Just more work for nothing. Just more complexity.

 Then, Morgan's doctor in California said the pathologist had turned completely "unruly". First, he wanted to help with the case. Then, he was apprehensive and now he is unruly?! I called him and he announced that he would no longer talk to our doctors because they knew nothing and could not testify in court anyway. I corrected him and said that they could. In fact, they were being specifically selected because of their experience in court. He said "no". I said "OK" and then asked him politely who could help us get to the bottom of this because nobody agrees with your position and that this is a problem. I just kept thinking to myself, as long as Morgan's manner of death remains "natural causes" her killer goes free to kill again.

 The pathologist finally said that we should find another forensic pathologist, preferably someone in our state and added that at least they could testify in court. He then said that he might have to look at accidental overdose again because the dose was quite high. I proceeded to ask him what dose because the only medication that showed up on her toxicology screen was "insignificant" up to this point in his opinion.

 We found a great forensic pathologist in Colorado who offered his help for no charge in Morgan's case. He had done the second opinion in the Jon Benet Ramsey case, as well as, many other high profile cases. It was perfect because he was giving us our second opinion and he was very well qualified and respected in Colorado. He looked it all over and I asked about the possibility of a suicide or accidental overdose. He proceeded to ask why. I explained how it kept becoming a bigger and bigger issue with the original forensic pathologist and at this point, I was beginning to believe it was truly a threat. He said with everything he had seen, he could not understand why any pathologist would call this a suicide. He said this case needed an investigation and then he quickly came to the conclusion that the amitriptyline level in her body was anything but "insignificant" as it was massive. He also mentioned that it was probably administered in a liquid form and it could have been possibly used for equine use. Death would have been certain and also relatively swift.

 Of course, this became another twist into the justice for Morgan saga. She was killed with a prescription drug that she did not take and the original forensic pathologist had no excuse for not knowing this from day one and was jeopardizing Morgan's chance for justice with his egregious errors.

 I called for a meeting with the detectives. They said the patrol house would be the best place to meet. That should have been a clue for me and Steve, but we did not see it coming. Steve and I went to tell them that Morgan had been killed with a massive dose of horse medication (which can also be taken by people, but in a pill form with doses nowhere approaching the one that killed our daughter). Steve had a "punch list" of all of the as of yet unanswered questions. The meeting did not go well at all. They tried to explain to us that no one could have been in the house. Steve asked if they ever found the container that contained the lethal dose of liquid equine medication.

 They changed the subject and started to accuse Morgan of recreationally snorting Amitriptyline. I questioned the possibilities of such and asked how could one snort prescription pills and why? They continued saying "The parents are always the last to know". The victims' rights coordinator stood through all of this. As her arms were crossed in silence, and the lead detective spewing out insinuation after insinuation about our daughter, we were disgusted. It could have been a 1950's rape trial and the victim would continue to be accused of her hemline shortness, her leading on, and the popular inability to say NO fast enough. But it is indeed 2012 and Morgan was indeed dead. Were they trying to bully us and scare us away with lies?

 Steve touched me on the shoulder and indicated it was time to go. He has that uncanny knack of knowing when the time is not now. I'm a proud Italian and I thought a good argument had just started and I just knew that Morgan wanted me to finish it. As we stood there, they told us the investigation had been dropped due to lack of leads. Steve quickly questioned about the stolen jewelry, the equine medication, and they still had NOT questioned the client who heard the confession of our neighbor. This was a sad day for the victim.

 Months later the Coroner's office called. This was the first time they called us. They had a new manner of death and wanted to fax it over. I thought they were going to carry through on their threat and change it from natural causes to accidental overdose. This would be going backwards, not just for Morgan, but because I started my blog which was a center, a source for other stalking victims who were contacting me mostly because they did not know where to turn.

 Well, I was wrong. A reporter from Glenwood was receiving his copy at the same time I was receiving mine. Morgan was not an accidental overdose - she was a SUICIDE?! Based on no new evidence. But wait, it does not end here. A new toxicology screen emerged from her gastric fluid. We are not medical people and even if we thought we knew what it meant, we would have a professional interpret for us. We learned later that her sample had been exhausted during this testing. Despite everything else they knew, Morgan's doctor at UCLA wanted to run various tests had they decided to do more testing, but they didn't care. Instead, they tested without consulting us.

 The re-testing indicated even worse things for poor Morgan. In fact, this test showed a veritable date rape cocktail had been mixed up for her. Either of the two drugs would have killed her on their own. The others showed positive, but did not have any levels because the sample was split between three labs, making them fully exhausted before more levels were established. Morgan never had a chance. She was murdered, while we slept across the house. No wonder there was no desire to answer any questions that Steve and I had. These questions include:

 Where was the container that held the date rape cocktail? Where were the PJs Morgan wore when Steve last talked to her? Who pried Morgan's panic button off of her nightstand? Who tore three of Morgan's nails? Who scraped 1/8" to 1/4" abrasions into her hand? Who put a flesh burn into her forearm? Who bruised her forehead? What caused her lips to bleed? What were the contents of the fine spray on her chest? (This was noted by the officer with the black light on the scene) What happened to all of Morgan's expensive jewelry?

Why was there no rape kit when she had an active felony stalking case on the day she was killed? Why were the next door neighbors, who witnessed odd behaviors consistent with an intruder that very night and wished to tell law enforcement, completely ignored? Why was the person who confessed to a client the identity of the stalker after Morgan was found dead never interviewed? Why was the Chief Deputy Coroner who assumed control of the death scene not properly credentialed as per Colorado Revised Statute? Why were deputies with no training nor experience in death scenes investigating allowed into the actual death scene? Why is it that numerous official sheriffs' reports refer to Morgan's medications, when in fact she was not prescribed those medications? Why do those same sheriff's reports purport the reason she took those medications, when in fact she never took medications for those reasons?

 Why, why, why...the questions continue to grow faster than any answers. Her official cause of death is now suicide, but it is not supported by any facts at all. As I have often said, we are not medical people; we just know what the experts who have volunteered to help Morgan have told us. Would it really be that hard to listen to them? Any of them?

To tell you something completely different and to associate that with suicide is not only horrible, but outrageous. For everyone who knew Morgan, they said she was not that type of person at all. In fact, if she contemplated suicide there would be signs. What do you think of the accusations?



 Morgan was not a suicidal person. Everyone that knew Morgan for years would tell you that. All of her close friends have become furious over the accusations. Even for a moment, to even think Morgan would think to take her own life...what would be the reason? Morgan was scared and stressed over her stalker, but is that a good enough reason? If that is the case, the stalker still contributed to her death. She has never in her life been diagnosed with depression. She was never on medication for depression.

 After Morgan's death, I was approached by one of her friends that actually said Morgan saved her life because that friend was depressed and considered suicide. It was Morgan with her gentle and influential spirit that helped her. Morgan was a very spiritual being, so as far as we are concerned, she would have been the last person on earth to commit suicide. Ironically enough, the summer before Morgan and I attended a forum to see the guest speaker, the Dali Lama at the Aspen Institute. I told her that the only thing I did not agree with was his stance about pure evil. I believe it does exist, but Morgan tended to agree with the Dali Lama.

 Morgan also loved animals. She had a new puppy "Wylah May" that was only 5 months old at the time Morgan was murdered. She absolutely adored that puppy. She would have never taken her life and abandoned that little baby.

 When the Coroner's office (basically the Forensic Pathologist) changed her manner of death to suicide after 8 months, it was extremely upsetting for my husband Steve, but I knew the Forensic Pathologist was going to do that. He had threatened me on three different occasions, every time I told him that doctors, specialists, and other Forensic Pathologists had reviewed all of Morgan's medical records and the autopsy results proved that this was not a natural death, but actual murder. It's very evident that Morgan died under suspicious circumstances and the prescription drugs that showed up in her system in the toxicology reports were NOT anything that she was taking.

 3 out of the 4 drugs discovered in Morgan's system were NEVER in the house, ever. In total, they all contributed to what people would dub a "date rape cocktail". According to the Sexual Assault Panel, these drugs were listed. The Forensic Pathologist requested that her labs be run only with the comprehensive panel, not the sexual assault panel. Two of the date rape drugs were in such large quantities, that they showed up instantaneously. The other two found in her system showed up, but not in the exact quantity. The one drug that Morgan was given was in such a large amount, which was either transdermal or liquid, that it passed through her bloodstream and killed her long before the other drugs could even be absorbed.

 If Morgan wanted to take her own life, she could have easily walked into our room and taken as many sleeping pills as she wanted to, but she did not. Morgan wanted to live because she had many things she wanted live for. The reality is it was a human predator(s) that ended her life. These same people took her PJs, the container for the date rape cocktail, and her valuable jewelry because it certainly was not Morgan fresh off a suicide leaving with all of those.

 After speaking with other Forensic Pathologists, the lab folks who had done her toxicology results, etc. I finally realized that this was overkill and how any Forensic Pathologist, Coroner, or Sheriff's Department could overlook it and call it suicide goes far beyond incompetence. As the FBI tells me, there is no law against incompetence, but all of the signs I am seeing lead me to believe that this something more insidious?

I just have to ask you, after your daughter reported the stalking, what kind of action was taken by the authorities? How did they treat her case?

 For the first 7 and a half weeks, they said they were not allowed to collect evidence because it was considered misdemeanor trespassing. The Colorado law reads different they stress urgency and recognize the danger. The patrol officers that came to our house every time we called them really cared. They found footprints up against the house, right under her bathroom window and called their office to see if they could take castings or pictures. They were told no.

 This was beyond crazy. Our daughter was in danger, so we decided it was up to us to protect her. The sheriff decided quickly that the perpetrator had to be in our neighborhood, which was the only way he could get away so fast. They asked us to refrain from sharing any information with the neighbors, as they didn't want to tip him off. It was a big mistake, as that was the first thing we should have done in the beginning because we could have had more witnesses and people watching out for mysterious behavior, someone walking around in the middle of the night, etc.

I know that individual police forces vary upon state and everyone will have different experiences, etc., however; I have noticed the same pattern of incompetence. I can't decide whether it's neglect or just laziness. They claim they care, but yet they do not help you.

 That is a very good question. On one hand, I have people tell me it is laziness, on the other hand I tend to think that they are not taught the correct way to deal with these types of situations and they are not taken seriously. I believe officers always echo what comes from the top of their precinct. Whether it is the police, or sheriff, or whatever law enforcement. It seems to always be that the actual seriousness of how the crime should be treated comes from the top and affects every patrol officer that deals with crime.

 I have had many; many past and recent stalking victims contact me with some experiences with law enforcement. Some good, some bad. I don't believe it was an individual concern of the officers, as much as pure knowledge of how to deal with the actual problem at hand. Writing tickets by comparison is relatively easy and I have yet to witness an officer who has not mastered that. Stalking is complex and the skill set to deal effectively is equally complex. I don't have all of the answers, but I do seek to gain as many as I can to share with law enforcement in the future.

Then, when they do offer to help you, it is too late. What message do you have for these types of police officers?


 One of the best things I have learned from Morgan's case is that stalking is not a reactionary crime. The call or complaint comes in and you react, most often with presence first. Stalking is a crime of prevention. Comparing it to terrorism, if we wait until the Twin Towers are on fire, it is too late. If the stalker has terrorized its victim and you are twenty minutes away, it is too late this time. How will you change that next time?

 Who is the stalker? Where does he work? What does he drive? What does he look like? What time did he come? Do you know where he is going to be? Fill me in, when you have him. Use water, rake the soil, and you will have his prints. Put up multiple wildlife cameras and you might catch his image. Bring in tracking dogs if you have just missed him. Take your stalker seriously because he takes the victim seriously. He is willing to risk everything just to stalk. React with equal seriousness.

I think police officers need to wake up and recognize that not all criminals are bank robbing thugs. To be stalked for months and after reporting it numerous times, nothing is done and as a result, the woman that reported the stalking is now dead. I am seriously sick to my stomach...


 It is really sickening to think that in a felony stalking case that has gone on for four months which resulted in the death of a 20 year old woman, under suspicious circumstances, that they did not call the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI) to help. This is what the CBI is used for. With all of their expertise and equipment. Did the sheriff just not care? Are they trying to protect someone? Do they just not know how to do their job?

 They needed to evaluate Morgan's stalker, but they did not. Lumping all stalkers into one bucket is the worst thing you can do, considering everyone is different and every stalker is a different kind of predator. There are many factors to look for.

 In Morgan's case, the injustice never ends. After completely blowing the investigation of her stalking, they overran her death scene. Not a single officer is certified in death scene investigation, so what exactly were they doing there? Destroying key evidence and failing to collect important evidence is what comes to mind. They did not take any evidence to be tested, such as sheets or pillows. All they took were her electronics (phone, computer, camera, and iPod) plus one of her older journals. Her current journal was right there in her bathroom, but they didn't take it.

There was no Medco legal investigator as required by state law. The sheriff's office had officers walking all over taking notes and basically contradicting each other, as they are not trained death scene investigators. It was such a nightmare because they don't take stalking seriously. They just assume that this is just a young person who died of too much alcohol or illegal drugs, which is incorrect. How could my daughter have a stalker for four months, that they were powerless to stop and think that her stalker was incapable of her murder? What did they do when the toxicology screen came back and Morgan was a clean living young woman? Drop the case? Are they really trying to stop stalking or promote it?

What reason and/or reasons do you believe that she was murdered?

We knew that it was very frightening for her to be woken up at all hours, in the middle of the night with loud bangs to her window or weird lower scratching noises. Being followed, being watched, having her stalker show up in the dark at 5:30 am dressed in black when she went to put her puppy out to go potty, etc. Her doctor at UCLA first thought that Morgan was frightened to death. She was very healthy, so she thought it was really incompetent to think she died of "natural causes" during this stalking. Some of the facts from her death scene include:

No container for the date rape cocktail found. No PJs that Morgan wore the night of her death found. No jewelry found. Very awkward yet staged appearance on the opposite side of her bed from where she always slept. Dressed in street clothes (which she NEVER slept in) and they were not the same clothes she came home in, the night before. Missing panic button. The overall condition of her room. The bedside tables swiped clear, folded clothes knocked to the floor. You just cannot look at a photo of her room and say there were no signs of a struggle.

This all indicated the presence of someone who entered and simply left her after she died. Other signs and clues include:

Torn nails, abrasions on the same hand, and a flesh burn on the wrist. A thumb sized bruise on her forehead, blood on her lips, and fine spray of bodily fluids on her chest. These are all consistent clues that support the fact she was murdered, as it makes perfect sense that Morgan was forced to ingest a date rape cocktail. The stalker was well aware that we were moving and therefore; knew his window of opportunity was closing, so the motive was growing also.

The stalker had many motives, but one of the most evident is that Morgan rebuffed him at their only meeting in public. The stalker's girlfriend had been heard saying inappropriate things in reference to Morgan and was heard by many individuals at different times in different settings.

None of the drugs were found ever in her room nor would she ever have garnered access to them. It makes no sense how she would, all of the sudden have access to them. I think it's very obvious that she did NOT commit suicide.

They did not find any of the drugs that killed her in her room. They didn't even find any prescription drugs in her room. Steve was asked by an officer, the morning we found her body if he had any recent or old medications for Morgan. Steve proceeded to go into the bathroom, where he had a box taped up with old medications for the three of us and gave the officer a bottle of an old medication she use to take over 2 years ago.

The officer wrote it down and then put the medication on Morgan's nightstand. According to sheriff reports that I read months later, another officer went through her room and wrote down that Morgan had that bottle of medication on her nightstand, so she was obviously taking it. And this is how the entire investigation went. So many discrepancies, so many mistakes. How could they ever come to a correct conclusion?

We independently checked with every one of her doctors and found that not one single doctor ever wrote a prescription for Morgan. We checked every pharmacy and none of them filled a prescription for Morgan. Morgan saw a doctor in 2010 for the express reason that she no longer wanted to take any prescription medications and as a result, she succeeded.

Not a single person has ever interviewed Steve or myself to find out who her current doctors were. Not a single person questioned whether or not Morgan took any medications. The last doctor to see Morgan was 36 hours before her death. We offered this information to the forensic pathologist, but he never contacted her. She contacted him, when we informed her about what was going on. She thought that Morgan was "positive and upbeat" when she spoke with her about the detectives being close to making an arrest of her stalker. She offered sleeping aids, as well as, anti-stress medication, but Morgan declined, as she would rather not take any medications, as ballet was her release. Was this another reason why the stalker had to get rid of Morgan? Because the following week the detective was supposed to get his hours and overlay them on top of our detailed timeline and would possibly be able to make an arrest at that time?

The detectives collected evidence that met their needs and basically fabricated the rest. It is not true, what else can I say. Legislation was passed in May of 2011 in Colorado to correct rampant problems with death scene investigation and all of the new statutes that were in force and should have been followed were completely ignored in the investigation of Morgan's death.

Based on everything you have told me and my own intuition (which never fails me) I think she was murdered, as well. I also agree with you about the suspects, as your story is so consistent. Everything you have said to me makes so much sense. Plus, based on observing the case fully rather than one dimensionally, there are more flaws in their stories than the finest cheese in Lucerne. It has definitely created a lot of emotional turmoil in your life, I am sure.

It took time for me, time for us. It was hard for me and Steve to accept that someone could have been in our daughter's room and killed her. This was a mountain for Steve to climb. Once I gave in to my intuition, I have only had my initial beliefs reinforced. Morgan was murdered. I usually always trust my intuition and my intuition has always told me who was involved, but my brain kept overriding what my intuition told me, so I kept thinking of other possibilities. Crazy I know, especially after Morgan had told me herself who was involved before she was killed. She also told her felony stalking detective and many friends the name of who was involved, as well.

Only the stalker that did this to Morgan had help from others that were trying to cover for him. Now on the surface, this sounds a little crazy, but when I started to do research in this area it was not crazy. It happens, as it has been shared in books. For example: one time in the beginning after the patrol officers came to our neighborhood (and Morgan wasn't home at the time, she was staying at a friend's house and called to say she would be home in the morning) a rock or something was thrown at the window I was standing in front of. I was startled and began to get angry, understanding exactly what Morgan would experience every time it happened to her.

I called 911 and four officers showed up at the house quick. As they surrounded our house, they began to move quickly to the house about three houses down from us. It was about 10:30 pm. As they surrounded that house, they knocked on the front door. At first, no one came to the door, but they were very persistent. Finally, a woman answered and said she would not let the officers in without a warrant. Then continued to mention that the person they were looking for was there, but sleeping and she was not going to wake him up because he worked the night shift at work.

The officers finally left and for the next hour, the perpetrator ran by the back of our house. This was where our bedroom was located and Steve and I were trying to sleep. This same person was setting off the motion lights and alarms that we had installed. They did this seven times, as if they were playing games. This was the type of criminal we were dealing with. He also got excited when the law enforcement would show up and not catch him. As if he were sticking up his middle finger to law enforcement.

The next morning this same girl's mother called a neighbor to say that the sheriffs visited her to question her daughter about Morgan's disappearance. Morgan did not disappear. This was just one of the many lies this mother told neighbors over the four months about the stalker, but when she was interviewed by the detective, she says she gets all of her information from her daughter. When her daughter is interviewed, she says she gets all of her information from her mother. The interviews ended there.

As Steve and I were totally stressed, trying to protect our daughter, the felony stalking detective assigned to our case was doing a few interviews of his own with no follow up. Just denial and spin from people who were involved in the death of my daughter. Later, the detective told me that if someone wants to lie to him there is nothing he can do about it. Well, that makes it sound like law enforcement can't do anything for us, unless the perpetrators will sit on the lawn in front of our house and wait for law enforcement to arrive.

Two weeks before Morgan was murdered, she stopped by a house in Carbondale to visit some friends that were there. Much later, when telling me about this incident, she said she never drank out of anything except her own water bottle. She didn't know what happened to her, but she felt really strange, dizzy, and sick so she tried to get out of there as soon as possible. She did end up at another friend's house that was close by and stayed the night there.

He used her phone to send me a text about what happened to her. We just thought she had been hit with the flu or something. It wasn't until a week later that she thought she had been dosed, but did not know how. Was the stalker able to slip something into the water bottle while she was there? We have so many questions and we know there are people out there that know the truth. Without a real investigation, we are trying to find out the truth.

It has been a year since my daughter has died. Steve and I, as well as, our blog readers have been searching for answers. The sheriff department continues to do nothing. The main purpose of starting Morgan's website and blog was to let others know who Morgan was and what happened to her. We wanted to let people know, so we could help others too. Others who are enduring the same thing. I truly believe that Morgan came through to us and told us this is what she wanted. She wanted to save others. As a result, Steve and I decided to start the Morgan Ingram Foundation which will provide tools for stalking victims, solutions, and a source others can use in the battle against stalking.

Tell me about the footprints in the snow...


This unbelievable! We had not had any real kind of snow that would stick to the ground until late that night. A storm blew in and we all slept through the night. The next day, when I walked down the driveway I saw footprints off to the side of the driveway. I called Steve to tell him. I called the sheriff's office to have an officer come look at the prints. The officer showed up and walked around the house, as well as around the neighborhood with Steve, as the prints slowly melted.

When the tapes were reviewed, it was very obvious to everyone including our felony stalking detective that the girl in the images was the same girl that would not allow the authorities to question her boyfriend. The same girl that marched around the house and made sure she was caught on the cameras except on the side of the house where Morgan's room was. The footprints lead back to the suspect's house. Steve also found it very revealing that a few days later; this same girl stated that she knew there was a video recording exonerating her boyfriend as the stalker.

Tell me more about the cameras outside...

When the stalking started, we realized in the first 7 and a half weeks that it was considered only misdemeanor trespassing. We were worried about Morgan's safety. It was very obvious that the sheriff's office was not allowed to do anything except show up when we called them and look around for the stalker. We bought a wildlife camera that captured a blurred image of the stalker, which was then broken by the stalker. As the stalking progressed, we bought a camera system and then more wildlife cameras before settling on a system that we installed on the house. The system was active 24 hours a day, every day. When the stalker was caught "off guard" he appeared on the camera. This was proof that a stalker existed, but not conclusive enough to prove who the stalker was.
It is interesting that our sheriff's department spent a summer capturing photos of a man who was exposing himself to women on a hiking trail down the road from our house and they thought they had a great photo of his face and published it in the paper. There are a lot of rumors about what happened, but no individual was ever charged with the crime.


Some people can say you are crazy, but at the end of the day, everything you have said is true and makes so much sense. I think I would rather be dubbed as crazy than a liar.

The more Steve and I do not give up, the more a select group of people want us to go away. They will do everything they can to distract everyone from the truth we are telling, however; that is to be expected. All you ever have to do is ask these people what their goal really is. Are they trying to stop stalkers and expose those responsible for Morgan's death or do they just want to protect the guilty parties? We are not going to give up. We want justice for what they did to her. We are only human after all and we are dedicated to seeking justice for Morgan and others who have endured the same thing.

I have to ask, what psychics did you speak with? I am a firm believer in psychics (although not all) simply because that is how I met a good friend of mine. She approached me with information that no stranger would have ever known nor had access to. Tell me what the psychics had to tell you in regards to Morgan's death. Did they say she was murdered?

 The psychic medium that helped us with this case since March is Jennifer Shaffer. Jennifer is amazing and she took the time to share her thoughts with us about Morgan. Interesting enough, when we first met Jennifer, Steve and I were very skeptical, however; Jennifer started telling us so many specifics that a stranger would not know. Everything from pictures, names, descriptions, and stuff she would have never known. Even our mutual friend who introduced us did not know this stuff, even our eldest daughter (who was with us at the time) did not know one of the things Jennifer mentioned.

 On March 2, 2012 Jennifer came in contact with us. She was not aware of anything before she visited except the fact that our daughter died and we were suffering. Jennifer mentioned that she thought we were a very strong family unit with love for our children, but knew we suffered an incomprehensible loss.

 As Morgan's spirit emerged, Jennifer recognized it almost instantaneously. Jennifer began to mention that Morgan was flooding her with her words, feelings, pictures, and names. She told Jennifer - "I want to be there with them. Tell them, I didn't want to go. I want to be next to them. I love them so much. I didn't want to leave. Please don't cry." This screaming whisper came directly from Morgan that penetrated Jennifer's whole being.

 Jennifer mentioned as Morgan contacted her that she has never felt this much so quickly. As she was able to channel Morgan images appeared in her head. She found herself being guided to the actual death scene. As Jennifer continued, she was shown more images that are so graphic they would make your blood boil.

 It was clear, Morgan was murdered. Morgan's color appeared yellow and she was poisoned. She was then shown horses. She went from poison to horses all over again. Morgan held Jennifer's heart as she showed her more scenes from her death. Jennifer said that Morgan was such a loving soul and quite possibly one of the nicest spirits she has ever worked with. Morgan mentioned that she misses being in physical form.

 Morgan showed Jennifer how the stalker (which included a description followed by a name) would climb up a tree to get onto the roof. Jennifer felt water and then showed Jennifer the poison, as if the poison were in liquid form. Morgan showed Jennifer a girl (and Jennifer gave us the name) involved with the stalker and then finally mentioned his name. Jennifer said she believed the girl was manipulated into doing things. Morgan expressed compassion for her.

 As the entire reading continued, Jennifer said that Morgan showed her a neighbor that lived nearby, who has information. She was also shown cameras of where the stalker worked that showed him leaving, when he was not clocked out. This continued with him coming and going several times.

 Jennifer shared Morgan's story with three other psychics and they all have confirmed the same findings. I have also had a reader of my blog offer to contact the Long Island Medium, which she did, and she told us the same things that the three other psychics mentioned. The information was very specific yet crucial. This is a total of four mediums who have offered their services and all have said the same exact thing. The information is so key to this case. It is also graphic and has yet to be shared. The reality of it all was Morgan was murdered and they saw it all. 

How did the psychics help the case?

 Because of Jennifer, we are given the strength to push forward and do whatever we can to try and get Morgan's case opened. In March, shortly after I met Jennifer Morgan's felony stalking case was still opened, but it was going nowhere. Some of the details that Jennifer told us were passed onto detectives.

 The details were not followed up on. In the case of our neighbor, he moved about one week before they went to his house to interview him (even though we warned the detectives that this might happen). The details that Steve and I were able to follow up on did turn out to be true. We were so amazed! This information was given to the detectives and for whatever reason, in mid-May they told us that a higher level person in their department was telling them they had to close the felony stalking investigation and because the "forensic pathologist" hired by the Garfield County Coroner had concluded "natural causes" as the manner of her death, they could not open a murder investigation.

 We are going to continue to push forward and with the help and guidance of Jennifer and we will never give up the quest for justice for Morgan. We want to raise awareness for other stalking victims. There are people that want us to stop and just go away, but that is not going to happen. We are all in this together and we are going to give a voice to those that cannot speak for themselves. 

Have you been harassed by those people that you suspect to be responsible for the death of Morgan or based on what the mediums said are responsible for her death? Tell me more about the harassment...

 Absolutely! When the blog, the re-calling of details of what happened to Morgan on a daily basis began, I started to receive anonymous email submissions through the website with threats. Then, the emails that were actually showing the person and the person's names that were threatening me. The people were related to the actual suspect.

 The other suspect and her family decided to take out temporary restraining orders against me and my husband because they wanted to obtain our new address. We moved out of our original home and neighborhood about one month after our daughter was killed. After they obtained information of our new address, some of the readers of my blog sent me an array of screenshots of the threats these people made over the internet on various websites towards me.

 These TROs stated that they were afraid for their safety because of my blog. First and foremost, I must mention that I spoke with and sought out the opinion of three attorneys before starting my blog. They all said that it is protected by Freedom of Speech, the first amendment. My blog details the truth of what happened to Morgan and my family last year and this upsets them. Their goal is to shut down my blog because it speaks the truth. 

They are angry because you have exposed the truth and that is one thing they fear most of all. Tell me about the emails and links, as well as, screenshots sent to you...

 The guilty parties are very angry. Just like a cornered wild animal they are reacting viciously. I expected this, so I will continue to remain fierce and to never give up. The readers of my blog that want to help have been sending me screenshots of the "others" Facebook accounts, as well as, things they have said on several internet websites.

 I do not have the time let alone the stomach to search the internet and find where these "others" are. Most are using incognito aliases and false identities to attack my daughter who is not even here to defend herself and myself. They have also attacked my husband.

 I am very thankful for everyone helping us. We have had former MEs, police officers, private investigators, former sheriffs, plus many more trying to help with reviewing, assimilating, and retrieving evidence. This has helped guide us in the right direction and what to do next. The outpouring of help has been huge and quite unexpected. There are many good people in this world and they all want to make the world a better place for families, children, and all of humanity. Without our website and blog, people would not know the truth about what happened to Morgan and would not be able to help us. This is critical because law enforcement is not helping.

For those people in the world today that are being stalked. That are being bullied, harassed, and intimidated. What advice do you have for them?

 The first thing I would say is to speak up. Tell everyone about what is happening. Do NOT keep it to yourself. You need others around you to be aware of what is going on, so they can watch out for you. This is so important. Some people may feel like others do not understand or they may think you are the one with the problem. You are NOT the problem! The problem is the person/people doing this to you. Do NOT be shy. There is someone that is doing something very wrong to you. Remember that you are not the problem, they are.

 Next, I would call your law enforcement agency every single time something happens. You need to have them record everything. They need to do their job and document everything, as it is their duty to protect you. Ask questions and pry as much as possible. As the stalking progresses the key is to have as many witnesses as possible to support your claims. Interview everyone you can.

Keep a detailed timeline of everything that happens using the date, the time, and the description. Use cameras. Wildlife cameras work great in combination with motion detectors. They are a great choice. I have had many women and yes, even a man write to me about their stalkers. These stalkers were arrested and prosecuted.

 Empower yourself. Whether it is with self-defense classes or martial arts or whatever can make you feel strong, so you can feel in control. Find out what resources are in your area to help you. Is there a safe house in your area or someone nearby that you trust? Go to a place that you know will help you immediately if you know the stalking and the violence is about to escalate.

 Evil can only exist when good people stand by and allow it to happen. SPEAK OUT! We can come together as a nation and decide to protect our neighbors, our neighbor's children, and anyone else that needs protection. If we see someone that looks suspicious or your intuition tells you that something is not right, approach them and ask them who they are. What is the worst thing that can happen?

Contact the person they are watching and make sure the parents are aware of any suspicious activity. Fear is what prevents people from speaking up. Whether it exudes from the victim or family, friends, and other loved ones of the victim. If you know it is wrong, please do speak out. In Morgan's case, I believe and know it to be true that there are other young adults that know something about what happened to Morgan, but are either a) too scared to come forward for their own safety or b) they are afraid to get caught up in the legal implications of the whole thing. It is very sad to me because they have managed to stay quiet and as a result, they have to suffer and live with this for the rest of their life with knowing someone is dead due to their fear. 

How has your life changed since her death? What have you done differently?

 Morgan taught us very much in her short life and in her tragic death. She taught us how important it is to always tell the people that you love how much you love them. I talk to our oldest daughter and our son on the phone almost on a daily basis and we always remember to tell each other that we love each other.

 Morgan has taught me that people are the most important thing in this world. Our life on earth is not about money or possessions. It's all about what you can do to help others. That life has to be lived to its fullest and you have to open your eyes to all of the beauty that surrounds you. From the smallest drop of rain on a leaf to the amazing hawk swooping down from the sky...don't miss a moment of it!
I feel that since Morgan's death, I was awakened with a purpose, a purpose that I never really knew before her death. My purpose now in life is to try to make sure that this doesn't ever happen to another girl and another family. Laws need to be changed, as well as, enforced. Law enforcement agencies and authorities across the country and around the world need to take stalking seriously. 

What is the message you are trying to spread? What would you like others to know?


 I want people to know that stalking is an abhorrent crime. It is soooo serious and it is dangerous. It is also pervasive and it creates a living hell for victims. It destroys and sabotages relationships. It forces people to move. It causes victims to become hyper-vigilant for the rest of their lives, always looking over their shoulder.

 Most children that have been kidnapped were stalked first. Most women that were raped were stalked first. Most serial killers stalk their victims. Stalking has to be taken seriously and our law enforcement agencies need to have the proper training to deal with this crime - and they do NOT! Stalking is the most underreported crime in this nation. If predators are not stopped in time, they will continue to hurt others. They may not stop until the victim is dead. We need laws to place protection on the victim.

 There is a lot of misconceptions about stalking. According to the United States Department of Justice, most stalkers are in their late teens to middle-aged. You are most likely to be stalked by offenders of similar age. Morgan's stalker was a year younger than her. Nearly half of victims from age 21 to 29 were stalked by offenders who were the same age.

 There are also stalkers that use others to help terrorize their victims. These accomplices will not only help cover up the crimes they have committed, but they will lie for them and spread untruths as facts in horribly misguided efforts to deflect attention from the stalker and the truth. My daughter was a victim of this particular defamation. As Morgan's stalking was happening the mother of the girl the stalker was living with tried to paint Morgan as having disappeared, saying that Morgan had gone missing. She also tried to tell others the stalker had been caught and that the stalker was Morgan's ex-boyfriend. Rumor after rumor, even after Morgan was dead.

 The Coroner's office had put down that Morgan died of natural causes for eight months, so why were these people spreading the suicide theory? The laws do very little to protect the victim. The victims deserve better laws that protect them and their rights as Americans. Current laws give the stalker the advantage, as well as, protection. Morgan's case started as a misdemeanor trespassing and after 7 and a half weeks, it finally moved up to a felony stalking case. Critical evidence was never collected. We believe this stalker knew what to expect and he is most likely going to do this again.

I am so sorry to hear about your loss. There is nothing in this world that will replace what was lost, especially a loss of a loved one. What else would you like others to know?



 When a crime with a similar MO is happening in the same area, I feel that law enforcement has a duty to inform the citizens of that area. Community involvement not only raises awareness for people, but it also is an enormous tool for law enforcement. It utilizes so many more eyes and ears and will help law enforcement catch these predators much faster. Law enforcement cannot be everywhere at all times, so everyone needs to watch out for each other.

 This doesn't even take into account that within an hour's drive of us, we have nine different law enforcement agencies that do not share this type of information. A stalker can drive 15 minutes away and do the same crime and none of the other law enforcement agencies will know there is a similar MO happening just down the road. A lot of states are starting to develop more laws to help, but we have a really long way to go.

 We need to all believe in our intuition. It will never fail you. If everyone watches out for those around them, then I will believe a lot of these crimes cannot be committed. As a whole, the good people in this world need to stand up and do something to stop these horrors from happening to another family.

What are your future plans and goals?

 We will be launching the Morgan Ingram Foundation shortly. We envision the Foundation's goal as a resource for stalking victims to find answers to their questions, give direction for assistance, as well as, develop tools to help the victims of stalking. Our goal is to raise awareness, which we believe is greatly needed. Steve and I went to bed one night with broken hearts, and woke up the next day with a purpose. We will NEVER stop working towards justice for Morgan and will do whatever it takes to develop new ways to help future stalking victims.  

Morgan is now a force, a power, and a face to change something so unethical and with your help, justice will be served. If anyone has any information about the stalking and death of Morgan Ingram, please please come forward. Imagine if this were your daughter, your mother, your wife, your son, your sister, your brother, or any other loved one in your life, imagine if this were YOU! WHAT WOULD YOU DO?


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